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Exactly, for me. Even after seeing multiple super slow motion close up replays it is and will continue to be debatable.

Sad technicalities in modern football have that as worthy of being overturned after a delay and this as a big upset - a completely average team beating an average team with a couple of potential variables. Naked eye stuff was so much better and more accurate in many cases. *technically and officially a bigger upset than Denmark late replacements for Yugoslavia winning the tournament by beating the defending European and reigning World Champions to do it

Guileless and uncreative as f**k Belgium. Just try to score through bludgeoning, Not just here but the World Cup too. Be glad when this generation is completely broken up and they can start over.

Can't remember the last time I experience a non-shit performance by Lukaku or Tyldsley.

Its spread now of course. I think if those people were in/from any country they'd find a reason to hate it or be ashamed, embarrassed about something - all the same justifications would be there, so wonder if its about any given country or just an attitude in which there's ironically more snobbery and condescension than in the people they criticise to be able to be so embarrassed. Saying that, I don't support the English national team (in football) and don't like England fans for amongst other things their boring long since unwitty songs, glory hunting attracting and mackem-esque turn-on-the-team-ability.

Wasted his life sifting for anti-Saudi angles, dwelling on a forum obsessing over another club and stalking NUFC related people and sexual deviant fetishes on twitter that lad

Think it will go the other way where they'd be ultra patriotic and want to represent Ukraine wherever they're born.

Effecitvely handicapping the chasing pack instead of the established elite of the day, and they've the nerve to cite 'competitiveness'

If the way it was for 120years until a few years ago is worse than now we wouldn't be here. Hope and dreams played a big part in fandom, gets people through (its all that kept us going through the Ashley era) 'One day' will become 'never, no matter who owns you'. Dominant eras becomes dominant forever.

Bloke on the line is offside anyway, in old money at least. Standing on the actual goal line between the posts probably doesn't constitute interferring with play now.

Its ridiculous. Villa and Forest speculated to accumalate and won. The money Forest will now have from 3seasons of PL football and quite probably more to come justifies their stake. Villa could theoretically be in and out the CL for a few years to come and make back the outlay they're being punished for. Just shows as much as they push the idea of growing organically they actually prohibit that too.

Receiving bile from the fans and calls for your dismissal within a year because of unreasonably high expectations based on a standard achieved in only a couple seasons of their entire lives (if old enough) only to have the owners listen to the fans and sack you, mustn't be an attractive proposition.

Good stuff. The people describing it as ruinous to the 'fabric of football' were City to win this appeal are either losing sight of or deliberately obscuring the fact that the solution is at least as ruinous, probably more. There's always been dominant teams. Man United, Liverpool, most European leagues are dominated by 1, 2 or 3 clubs but that dominance was never enshrined from being usurped by others before. PSR/FFP trades periods of dominance for permanent dominance.

from an Everton fan "been reading a mixed bag of thoughts on possible Saudi involvement and looks like its already splitting opinion on GoT. Tbh think most just want to see the back of Moshiri and the club been ran well again for the first time in about 9years Just good to see plenty of interest after FM gave 777 a free run at it" Well I never, who'd have thunk it

Conversely I'm sure "backwards European teams" speak so highly of a club that's not kicked a ball in Europe for 50years, spent most of that time in the lower leagues of another country and if it is known is mostly known for being near and/or rivals of Newcastle

Yeah that's the thing. It probably worked for 2years in that regard when there was a buzz there but its been 20years now of the only team being intimidated is their own and a stark lack of buzz in the stadium exemplified often by empty seats. Seems like a parody.

Manchester United did, more so probably. Pre Abramovich the lowest they'd finished in 12years was 3rd once and won 7 of the previous 9 titles (Man City 8 in 13) and by 18points in 99/00, only twice were they taken to the last day. With plenty of cups along the way trebles and a couple doubles, whilst being the richest club in the country. (Liverpool probably likewise in the 70s and 80s). Funnilly enough there was no talk I recall about changing rules then, and pre Abramovich there was no signs that that dominance wouldn't continue.

They're saying its a recylced Sunderland shirt from one of the league one seasons. Which means that was a recycled version of our Champions League days under Sir Bobby shirt. I appreciate the own-goaledness and reminder of the chasms between us.

These stories are so great. Think a good deal if it is the vindictive knowing S****s D****t are missing out

Always thought it was Barcelona in the Champions League, geeing them up after elimination. Doubting that now.

Was Wimbledon in the CCLC but at Palace. Was widely reported and well known that he went AWOL. Sort of wonder what his side of the story is after all this time.

I'm still a little taken aback at us being a professional organisation.

Its nefarious business practice in any walk of business but in sport its just absurd for the established top competitor to prohibit competition. Its probably why its never been done until recently as much as all the top competitors of times gone by would have benefited from it, it was just too obvious.

Yeah. Because of that and the commercialisation (headed by the usual) it killed the possibility of anybody being able to grow anything organically and challenge at the top and because success equates to money and without money you cant have success its a closed shop unless investment is allowed.

Villa, ourselves, Chelsea, Forest, Leicester and Everton ay Just six clubs that had or have ambition which is now a bad thing and banned henceforth. If you don't have ambition or just give up that's fine. What a mess.