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If anything its a foul by Armstrong. Accidentally or otherwise he causes the initial trip that causes the Hungarian to begin to fall and makes sure of it by hauling him down by his shirt. Its one thing to get in front of the defenders but you don't see people do it in that obvious and ungainly a fashion which made it at least look very much look like he was desperate for contact to take the dive. All the Hungarian arguably did wrong was get his arm slightly across the chest and it would have been extremely harsh to give it for that. Daft really as it was by far their best chance of the game and should have been more concerrned with getting a shot off. *Also wants a "European" ref. Like they speak Argentinian in Argentina.

Old Patrick Kluivert did for them in 96 even after they actually won. Its got to be a joke on them. Great news.

Had as good a team as England until their total dominance started in 1987. Also just remembered Ferguson was in the crowd, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

They're cursed on two fronts. By being an awful team fully warranting the defeat and exit but the manner of it, though just, feels like a cosmic joke all the same.

Incredible how he's made such a pigs ear out of something that should have been so trivial and could even now be sorted by simply paying the money were due - on top of which I cant see Ashworth being worth the faff.

Was expecting a "however the belt can only change hands by pinfall or submission....."

I know what you mean. There's stuff on there that you cant believe is legit and must be fishing, smoking them out, provoking bizarre comments. There's a concept that we started referring to ourselves as "Toon" because of them and doubled-down on it when they became a city and some jealousy was involved at our end somehow despite having been a city for 100years. Someone saying they went to both Sunderland's European away games and have you ever seen a Mag in Lisbon or Budapest (we've played at least six times in those citys) and Look North has deliberately been showing Sunderland in a bad light for years and promoting Newcastle. It would honestly work as a parody

Both out I'd say

Totally spent Georgia.

Makes at least as much sense to back the club given their record as it does attack them about ffp forcing them to sell a player that's never kicked a ball in the premier league

In an ffp world I don't know what else the club is supposed to do. You have to sell to buy and you cant sell players nobody wants. Even Man City do this, Chelsea practically live off it. The red clubs seem to not have to, surprise surprise.

Seemed like the sort of goal they could find something to rule it out for if they were so minded

The not putting the flag up until the sequence ends even though they know they're going to is another cracking addition

All but the most biased ardent Georgians wouldn't have complained had that not been given, it wouldn't have been controversial had that not been given so obviously its a error and given

It is. Wonder how they compute that being as they suppose its part of Sunderland and should be, even though its never remotely been, a stronghold of theirs.

He's got something but just too injury prone and expensive for me, got to be way better value elsewhere

Silage that. Wasted an Angel Delight on it.

Yeah. I don't know what their current average ticet price is but Leeds with 5000 less fans make x3 more per game. "41000 sold" couldn't be that far off surely.

2000, 2004, 2008 were way better than this

Remember the Euro 2000 game between these? If not, imagine a draw, but the exact opposite kind of draw to this. Plus for the quality discussion it was France's second string - they'd probably be the 2nd best team in this tournament

They did this in one of the earlier games, gave offside but they guy was nothing like interferring with play - nothing came of the attack like a goal but still. How many years until we stop celebrating goals

I've enjoyed it and been engaged in the games I've seen but I wouldn't say any of the games I've seen outside of that and any drama have been particularly good

Played like they're both through. Which they basically are.

In probably the greatest goal ever scored Maradona rounded the keeper

Even though its to their detriment they'll not give up the vain, self-delusion out of insecurity Very cheap tickets + lie about the gate anyway > we get 41,000 and are massive > any manager that doesnt achieve the standards of clubs with similar gates except real and making 3-6x as much gate money is a failure and is to be hounded out v club gets 30-35k actually > any manager that has us competing for the play offs is doing okay as is about our average for the last 60year and we should give them some time and not create a toxic atmosphere