Wolfcastle

Wont compete with them even with a new stadium. It woild just be proliferation

League wise

Always (94-97 aside) did hate Liverpool more.

Its a reverse-Torres at the moment.

What an obscene amount of money they spent to go backwards. Luckily its just a laugh. Not like when clubs spend money to move forward or don't spend money at all, that's what brings the game into disrepute. If that's 8' of stoppage time, any game finishing with less and the referee has basically blown before time

Will believe it when I see it. There's no cheese to be made at Sheffield Wednesday without investment and ambition and he'll deploy neither of those on the off chance he might get it back

Absolutely hate this fixture. Forgettable games, forgettable performance, usually draw at best

BBC did an Andy Cole goals medley to "Gun Law" when he was with us and advertised the Blackburn cup game in 95 to "Closest Thing To Heaven". The forerunner to RTG dives in Sunderland must have been positively agog

The T1000 is part of the magedia

See, the "i miss the derbies" lads. This is what they get like when they're above you in the early stages of a season. Know its hard for us to relate to having had bigger fish to fry most of our lives as fans but apart from beating us or finishing ahead of us or something bad happening to us completely unrelated to them - this is as good as it gets for them.

Generally I think the 'you've got to give a manager time' concept is a trite mantra. You give the wrong manager time it can set you back for a very long time and undo a lot of good work. Where Forest are is kind of where we were post Sir Bobby and Keegan. They may not get back to this level if they gave the wrong manager a year or more like we did. Bad managers aren't going to come good however much time they're given.

Thauvin (that pic) and James Romero (wrestling podcaster) for the lookalikes thread

No Isak in the same way as no Cole or Shearer under Keegan. Beadsley, Lee, Venison - arguably Ginola, Beresford, Kilcline were better in my interpretation of "best transfers" - finds, value, service ie. Ferdinand plugged in before and after each of them but who gives us what Beardsley and Lee did. Whose the best 3 players is an intirely different question for me.

Trippier should definitely be in there, either way you look at it, his all round play to begin with, his nous ever since, the value for the fee and the Kilcline factor. Burn and Bruno.

Been all down hill for Martin since his charge Brereton-Diaz took a that embarrassing dive up here. Barely won a game in over a year since. Shame.

That fall served Gibbs-White right for turning on Carlito is Carlito's way

Roll on the extra phase of the Bruce cycle. The massive turn around after he's gone. Blackpool worth a flutter for the playoffs for any gamblers out there. Villa, ourselves and West Brom after getting rid of him in 12th, 19th and 22nd place alternately went on to get promoted via the playoffs, finish 11th with European quali form, miss out on the playoffs by 3points after showing automatic promotion form

Possession nonce Martin isn't he? What use was that ever going to be to Rangers. Hope they don't get McInnes from Hearts but that's standard procedure for that league to snare anybody from outside the duopoly that's looks half decent. Way the PL is going just with double the teams.

Just cant get a run full strength can we? So irritating.

Starting to think he got the gig just to win the Europa again because Madinakis thinks thats how it works.

Bread and butter win, they mount up and you've got to get them. Don't enjoy Forest games. On to the most worst game fixture of all next.

His own son was one of those media buddies ffs sitting there on Final Score with Jason Muhammed saying "Villa on the playoff charge" everytime they scored a goal no matter how many times they went on to not win the game and finished where they started under him. 13th!!! Saying "shit result for Villa again huh?" would have been 100% more apt

Liverpool turned over in their cheatage time again and the end of Bruce's career as a con artist.

Better FFP/PSR rule would be if you waste an absolute morally repugnant fortune on players you;re barred from wasting absolute fortunes in future. Why punish clubs that don't waste money.

Oof and Hearts stoppage time goal.