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For the sake of argument, if we'd sold Wilson for the same amount we'd bought DCL for (let's say £20m) would the people who don't rate him at all (presumably including his Ancelotti years) still be saying it's a shit deal?

Depends on why we've pulled out (if we have) really. Whether it was a great signing or not probably would have come down to the fee, so if they were insistant on the £37m and we've walked away then that's fair enough. Anything below £25m and I think it would have been a good signing.

That's certainly one way of putting it. Another would be when he was playing regularly in a good team, with an excellent manager he scored 15 in 41, at just over 1 in 2 per 90 (a goal every 200 mins), then 21 in 39, at better than 1 in 2 per 90 (a goal every 158 mins) Either side of that he was a kid, then injured and playing in a terrible team. As willing back up strikers go, this is probably as good as it gets

We avoided relegation at a canter, were in top 4 form for the entirety of his time here in which he played regularly, but because he's a shite finisher for some that's all that's relevant.

Rightly so, and tbf, it's not just the Gordon stick, it's the Pope stick, what's looking likely to be the Hall stick, what could be the Barnes stick and to an extent the Livramento stick. Meanwhile, some of the players this forum has had the most clamour for since the takeover: Lodi, Paqueta, Maddison, Diaby, Targett, Szbozslai, Minteh. Hardly a list of players who've gone on to all-star status. Pope and especially Gordon should have been lessons in humility for our fans, but nah, so many just jumping straight back head first into the assertion over Howe's nose for talent that Calvert-Lewin is bang average and Minteh's a wonderkid.

Some of our fans are mental and never learn a single lesson do they?

That's a real shame for the scotch

It's over for Scotland now anyway isn't it?

Schär has been class

Nice to see Schar getting some love. The funny thing about all these negative posts is that you could be talking about either match

If I don't survive watching these matches, tell my wife "hello."

Which match is better?

I saw this the other week. Was completely surreal seeing Mark Lawrenson correctly answering what happened to Robert Maxwell while scrolling through tiktok.

At best he's torn it up in Eridivisie. He could end up being great, he could be a flop. Where he's played doesn't really give any indication of what the outcome will be vs other leagues. Shame we haven't seen him get a chance but if Howe doesn't fancy him for whatever reason and we can make a profit to get someone in that he does fancy, sobeit. He and the club will live and die by these decisions. Going on like this is a Salah, KDB situation isn't really based on anything.

Trippier

They were seeking £60m for Gordon, they're seeking £80m for Braithwaite. No reason to believe £37m would be the fee.

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Disallowed because you're shite m8

That pass had goal written all over it, gutted he fluffed it

McCoist's natural personality is very 'fun drunk', he'd be class on a night out either one on one or in a group.

Did Tyldesley just refer to Dr Robotnik as "Dr Apeman"?

I definitely accept the injury record argument, but a not particularly great player? Bearing in mind he'd be brought in to play second fiddle or be a plan B, you would think Howe is confident he can unleash the DCL we saw under Ancelotti who, greatness or not aside, had a very good record.

Did I just see DCL compared with Riviere?