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Great news - what a bunch of doom mongers in here

You should pop into the Wilson thread to hear about how now is the time to sell him…

Given there doesn’t appear to be a RW ready for the first team about to sign Almiron can’t be allowed to leave - squad has enough holes in it without adding RW

Hope they don’t go for Howe Presume Alonso will be their first target

They have all the board meetings there, have no idea why

And has he had any out of character blunders?

The sales rumours only make sense if there are advanced talks for someone coming in. Almiron must have played every game this season. Wilson is a massive contributor. Losing either in January is hugely risky. Trippier to me looks like Bayern looking at Livramento come through, seeing Krafth is fit, the CL exit and the age and just thinking they might be tempted by an offer here and having a go, fair enough for them but I don’t see the club biting.

There will always be tension between managers who want instant impact as no manager is ever further than 10 games from the sack and a DoF/committee who are working on a 5 year horizon. It’s fine, it’s a necessary tension. I would expect Howe to want proven experience so I’d bet he was all for Isak and Tonali, as well as v keen on Barnes, and probably a lot less keen on a 20 year old with one season in Ligue 1. Doubt it’s a nationality thing at all - just practical as shopping for PL experience means more British players.

I thought he was good at the Times as the Times don’t have to churn out as much club specific material, so you get the good stories only - the Times doesn’t want to print 8 Nufc stories a week. At the Athletic you get these misty eyes stories about the colour of players sofa cushions as they need the volume, not just in print but for a podcast just on Newcastle so you get the good stories amongst piles of filler content i dont think it’s Caulkin specific I think it’s an issue with the athletic - as the whole site is full of aimless drivel

The amount the players get and the amount in the accounts will be slightly different as the accounts amount will include employers NI and pension costs IIRC employers NI is 13.8%, so 94k in the books is about 82k for the player. If Joelinton is on 85k he is paid more than the average currently. But I guess this next contract is his max earnings years so he’ll go all in. I think he’s more valuable to Nufc than to anyone else though so he’ll get his best offer staying put

At the start of next season the first -73 rolls off, so the club can spend again

If those numbers are right it does explain a lot. This season the club need a FFP profit, so the ASM sale, delaying the Hall fee and the inability to spend now make sense. i assume the plan is to use the CL money to swing it into profit into 22/23. If they’d got out of the CL group stage that might have given a bit more room for a transfer. The good news is while this year it’s the 20-21 profit falling off, next summer it will be the 21-22 73m loss falling off. Therefore there will be opportunities to spend after June - basically can lose another 73m and stay in the bounds Key thing now for FFP is to get into Europe to maintain revenue

But that was an attempt to enforce rules on people (agents) outside of their members club. FFP isn’t. likewise they can’t prevent Newcastle getting a £100m shirt sponsorship from Saudi aramco, but they can say it only counts as £20m for FFP

People chuck around terms like legal or illegal - there are no laws being broken here? Or am I wrong? I don’t see how it’s against any trading standards. Clubs can sign sponsorship deals about FMV, but the amounts above don’t count in the FFP calculations The PL is a club that sets its own rules. If you a club wants to do something against FFP it can, it just can’t stay as a PL club member. The various clubs challenges are all whether the PL is applying the rules of the PL all agreed fairly. But that’s of no interest to competition regulators or any other parties.

I don’t have sympathy for Everton and Forrest as if they have broken the rules then it’s simply not fair on all who obeyed them - especially as both clubs were in relegation battles. If they stayed up ahead of Southampton and Leicester as those clubs obeyed the rules and they didn’t then there has to be a punishment I would not expect any change to FFP to help Newcastle, it will be designed to keep the brakes on. Aligning with UEFA will at least help the club navigate FFP

Had a sensible regime sold Carroll for that money I’m sure the fans would have been ok with it. The kicker with Ashley was the squad was never going to see the reinvestment. Carroll never had a great touch and certainly never looked after himself - the stuff with Kevin Nolan was comedy at the time - but am fairly sure his career would have had a similar trajectory if he had stayed. Not really progressing, then injuries taking their toll. He certainly was never going to become Harry Kane

agree With those saying that with pretty much any 2 of the 7 missing forward players I think they get something. Question is whether people think the team can realistically switch to a different less energy sapping style of play mid way through the season. up until now there’s been a game every 3 days, not a lot of time to change coaching, and can the players brought in even do it? on the other hand if the current approach keeps losing matches how long can you stick with it? Im in the stick rather than twist camp, but its tricky. They can’t change a style of play at halftime against Man City though, remember when spurs tried a new style of play at St James and were something like 4 down in 20 mins

It doesn’t take much to get some peoples knickers in a twist. The club look at hundreds of players and they will also know the squad needs some filling out, unless you want to see Ritchie etc in the bench again next season, so there could well be additions at good prices that aren’t straight into the first 11.

Underrated chant as well. When the whole stadium or the away end was just chanting Papiss Demba Cisse over and over - greet scenes

Some academy players are only in the academy to make up the numbers and the club will have no expectation they ever play at PL level - including most of the new boys. Bringing them in was about raising the overall standard as the few players who will make it need to be in a good enough team and training squad to progress. A lot of the new academy signings will be league 1 or 2 level players. And that’s fine, that’s the deal - they make up the numbers in the academy and in return get top level coaching so they can have a career as a professional footballer - just don’t expect a load of 18 or 19 year olds bought for the academy to all be first teamers in 3 years.

Ditching 3rd round replays would be a crime Bit annoying to be both away and against premier league opposition.

Can’t see them being interested in domestic English cricket, it has barely any audience in the UK. If they go into cricket it will be the IPL. I can see the club wanting to buy Kingston Park, but it would probably be to upgrade the facilities for the women’s, reserves and youth teams that already use it

The race course itself has a separate members owned golf club through half of it so if it was on the race course they’d need to pay off the golf club and am sure one of the (presumably hundreds of) members would have leaked it? Parklands golf club is directly owned by the racecourse so that seems more likely

It was never going to be plane sailing - from the takeover to being part of the elite, this season is going to be a tough one. Did people honestly think it would just be season after season of higher league places? I don’t blame Howe at all, I’d probably apportion more blame for this season on whoever was supposed to do the background checks on Tonali. José is a busted flush and replacing Howe with him is a terrible take. Mourinhos time at the top of the game has long gone. Howe is a far better coach and man manager.

True, but it’s one thing asking them to step up for a couple of games vs perform week in week out for an extended time. As well as Miley and Anderson have done they likely will struggle to keep form consistently, it’s unfair on them to expect anything else.