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Can't see it happening with renewals already started.. TBF like others have said WF pushing atmosphere survey but trust should of been all over this proposing further standing.

What are they doing up in level 7 ahead of next season? Shame they didn't make that safe standing/singing section as would be good if away teams didn't sell out as well so it carried across.

@Heron did much come of the survey results and did Wor Flags get chance to present to club?

No one questioned his performances v Forest Arsenal Everton etc when he looked good in the role, give this lad a proper run of games and I have doubt he can adapt.

@Heron are WF looking to share survey info with club? I presume that'll be the actions, definitely needed.

Club running a 16-25 workshop , hopefully opportunity for some fans to bring up further standing, seat relocation etc...

Think it proves something to work with, level 7 should be Safe standing, and probably a small section of level 3 leazes

Just shows we give them far too much respect Tuesday...

Well hopefully this will create a good away end at the Etihad with fans wanting to be there to support the lads... Anyone ganin? Bought my ticket so hears hoping for a famous night...

Just echoing what @Chicken Dancer and @Wallsendmag have said, the season ticket holders are the problem, when atmosphere is poor it's always "tourists" too many "plastic fans getting in" reality is 80% of the ground is season ticket holders..there's your problem, I'd also go as far as saying in several games this season the returned safe standing seats from away clubs have created more atmosphere that most parts of ground, they've actually got the leazes end going at times... The biggest trouble is WF, trust and supporters club maybe only people who have a input into club but I think they should of really seen this as priority...look at arsenal at home last year in semis, generally cheered the lads over the line, this club, the players and managers deserve better from the supporters.

The fact that people leave at 0-1 with 9 mins to go shows where we are.... Last night was a wake up call that we need a designated area in the ground, if you don't move fans around nothing will change.

He wouldn't get into Arsenal or city's 11 if they have defenders fully fit, also he would probably start for his country. I really feel for him, the injuries he's had have hindered many a career in the past, I do hope he can get back to his best but you do worry he might breakdown before he gets a good run of games, hopefully he gets a break so he can string a good amount of games together until end of season.

Exactly this, seen fair few saying it's rubbish and how bad atmosphere was at Goodison for last 10 year.

Port vale Burton Grimsby away etc hopefully

his pace is a worry but what worries me with Botman it's decision making,against Leeds he looked stuck in 2 minds when Aaronson was running at him and back pedalled, yesterday he seemed to not make an early decision when a couple of through balls were played through and he was caught napping. He probably is rusty and out of form in fairness however with Schars injury and age as well we really need to look at 2 centre halfs

More I watch premier League football I recognise it's a problem for everyone, watching Arsenal v Liverpool, Liverpool's away support is shocking these days. 25 mins in they've not sang a song yet. A chorus of allez allez from arsenal n that's it

I like Elliott Anderson but the fans saying bring him back etc, Miley is more complete player for me, outstanding again

Will die on the hill that he's been our best centre half over last 20 years... What a servant the blokes been, hope he recovers well.

Seen Everton fans saying their is thousands of resale tickets for their game v Sunderland on Saturday and a lot for their game v Wolves tonight, you can also get 4 tickets per purchase for the next few spurs home games, maybe we are starting to see the ticket prices of modern football finally catch up on fans which obviously is a huge factor and impact on the atmosphere as we know.

My mates a season ticket holder at city and he has membership for his son, he can buy up to 4 tickets if demand is there, I'm a ST so haven't checked t and c but are ours 1 per membership?

Another thing which doesn't help now is the shear amount of games. 4 games in the space of 10 days at home, generally feel it takes shine off excitement. I can only do 2 of 4 giving living down south and can imagine loads are having to miss a couple through work commitments/childcare affordability etc. I dunno if cup games count but transfer limit isn't a lot when we could have 30 games at home... Being there yesterday nothing will change until you force seat moves but can't see that happening...Elland road was proper flat yesterday as well, know it's early kick off but still suprised given their biggest home game of season.

Go back couple a year ago and we could be getting well beat and we'd sing "we still follow united" demographic has massively changed since ticketing changes

As a few have said Nathan Ake on loan is a no brainer for me...

He's a decent player but some of comments in here a bit over the top imo, elite etc... I don't think he's ever been quick enough to be elite. I think 2 centre halfs will be a must within the next 2 Windows.