STM Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I agree with Dave on Cisse but I think his future might be over. So: Krul Janmaat Mbemba Dummett Haidara Anita Wijnaldum Sissoko De Jong Aarons Mitrovic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think Sissoko can probably be worth a place on the right-wing when hesnot sharing the midfield with carthorses like Colback and Gouffran. With Wijnaldum, De Jong and Aarons, he wouldn't be the solitary driving force from the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I think the wing suits him better. He struggles with the quick footwork required in the centre. Down the flank he gets the chance to isolate his fullback, which means he will win alot of duals because of his pace. With Janmaat there he isn't restricted to staying out wide. If De Jong/Wijnaldum pick up knocks we can move him in field if necessary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Krul Janmaat x x Haidara Wijnaldum Colback Sissoko de Jong x x Based on the game time I've seen so far, I figure those players are certain to start against Southampton. Hopefully Aarons is the 3rd of the attacking midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Embarrassingly, Cisse is the only player we've got that we know can score regularly in the Premier League. Irrespective of the quality of service, until he is sold (or the new lad starts firing them in) I find it a bit odd that we'd leave him out. We're looking at a complete overhaul in how well we play and create as a team before we're confident enough we can cope without a striker like him. Bit optimistic that IMO. Southampton didn't have a proven Premier League goalscorer this time last year (I don't think...I may have missed someone obvious), but their new manager trusted himself and his signings/philosophies and had a brilliant season. They were already and continue to be light years ahead of us in terms of actual football played though, that's my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Embarrassingly, Cisse is the only player we've got that we know can score regularly in the Premier League. Irrespective of the quality of service, until he is sold (or the new lad starts firing them in) I find it a bit odd that we'd leave him out. We're looking at a complete overhaul in how well we play and create as a team before we're confident enough we can cope without a striker like him. Bit optimistic that IMO. Southampton didn't have a proven Premier League goalscorer this time last year (I don't think...I may have missed someone obvious), but their new manager trusted himself and his signings/philosophies and had a brilliant season. They were already and continue to be light years ahead of us in terms of actual football played though, that's my point. Fair enough but I think it's wasting other talent and others' strengths. Not many outside the top 5-6 spend £13m on someone who's not going to be starting games and I think De Jong behind him with Aarons on the left-wing and Ayoze in from the right fits better than partnering someone whose touch and in-game intelligence blows hot & cold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Don't like Sissoko on the wing, rather we signed a propper winger. Not sure how Ayoze will fit in, cover for De Jong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Krul Janmaat x x Haidara Wijnaldum Colback Sissoko de Jong x x Based on the game time I've seen so far, I figure those players are certain to start against Southampton. Hopefully Aarons is the 3rd of the attacking midfielders. And with this we're still forgetting players like Anita, Perez and Abeid who I all think have a part to play this season. And of course Mitro, who is almost guaranteed to start, the radgie bastard. Once we get the defense sorted, I don't think we're that far off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Don't like Sissoko on the wing, rather we signed a propper winger. Not sure how Ayoze will fit in, cover for De Jong? Left wing cutting inside. He did that back in Spain, but if Mitrovic expects crosses he won't be getting many. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Ben Arfa played as an inverted winger for most of his time with us yet he was more than capable and willing to put a cross in. Ayoze has the capability to add that into his game if he starts to specialise on the left side of attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 He is right footed and comes from a football culture were forwards aren't expected to put high crosses in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Within the realms of possibility (ie. with Colback definitely as a starter), I'd like to see: Krul Janmaat Colo Mbemba Haidara Colback Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Perez Mitrovic Perez is a better footballer than Cisse and will contribute more to the creativity of the team, and Mitrovic seems to know the onion bag well as being stronger than a pre-pubescent Hugo Viana - something which Cisse can't say for himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Within the realms of possibility (ie. with Colback definitely as a starter), I'd like to see: Krul Janmaat Colo Mbemba Haidara Colback Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Perez Mitrovic Perez is a better footballer than Cisse and will contribute more to the creativity of the team, and Mitrovic seems to know the onion bag well as being stronger than a pre-pubescent Hugo Viana - something which Cisse can't say for himself. Improve the defence and find a way for Aarons to play and thats a canny side(even with Colback) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rotating Aarons/De Jong may not be a bad idea. Especially as both seem to have had an injury-prone start to their careers here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rotating Aarons/De Jong may not be a bad idea. Especially as both seem to have had an injury-prone start to their careers here. Still not happy with any side that has to start one of Colo/Willo/Saylor though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rotating Aarons/De Jong may not be a bad idea. Especially as both seem to have had an injury-prone start to their careers here. Still not happy with any side that has to start one of Colo/Willo/Saylor though I can just about live with Colo if he's got pace and physicality alongside him. He might form a decent partnership with Mbemba to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rotating Aarons/De Jong may not be a bad idea. Especially as both seem to have had an injury-prone start to their careers here. Still not happy with any side that has to start one of Colo/Willo/Saylor though I can just about live with Colo if he's got pace and physicality alongside him. He might form a decent partnership with Mbemba to be fair. Just rather not take the risk when we will need to replace him in 12 months anyway. Not sure its worth the risk seeing if he can reverse his decline for the sake of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 What formations have we been playing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rotating Aarons/De Jong may not be a bad idea. Especially as both seem to have had an injury-prone start to their careers here. Still not happy with any side that has to start one of Colo/Willo/Saylor though I can just about live with Colo if he's got pace and physicality alongside him. He might form a decent partnership with Mbemba to be fair. Just rather not take the risk when we will need to replace him in 12 months anyway. Not sure its worth the risk seeing if he can reverse his decline for the sake of that. Oh I agree, but us getting 2 top class CBs seems overly optimistic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 What formations have we been playing? Basically a 4-2-3-1 in every fixture under McClaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Rotating Aarons/De Jong may not be a bad idea. Especially as both seem to have had an injury-prone start to their careers here. Still not happy with any side that has to start one of Colo/Willo/Saylor though I can just about live with Colo if he's got pace and physicality alongside him. He might form a decent partnership with Mbemba to be fair. Just rather not take the risk when we will need to replace him in 12 months anyway. Not sure its worth the risk seeing if he can reverse his decline for the sake of that. Oh I agree, but us getting 2 top class CBs seems overly optimistic True but at this stage they only need to be half decent to upgrade on the dogshit we already have. I would even accept Zouma on loan despite hating those deals with a passion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Hopefully McClaren will actually look at developing some sort of culture at the club. Pardew felt very much like a first XI kinda guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Within the realms of possibility (ie. with Colback definitely as a starter), I'd like to see: Krul Janmaat Colo Mbemba Haidara Colback Sissoko Wijnaldum De Jong Perez Mitrovic Perez is a better footballer than Cisse and will contribute more to the creativity of the team, and Mitrovic seems to know the onion bag well as being stronger than a pre-pubescent Hugo Viana - something which Cisse can't say for himself. I tend to like this formation. I would like a little more spine than Colback at the holding spot though. Maybe Tiote can be revitalized and just play as an anchorman. I'm just praying McLaren will bring more order to our approach. Good defense, transitory and offensive theory can go a long way with this lot. Had these signing been made with Pards or Charver I would have felt they were bought and tossed into a black hole. I actually believe that McLaren can use them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The diamond works on PES Not exactly sure how it would work irl though, I'm a bit conflicted on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The diamond works on PES Not exactly sure how it would work irl though, I'm a bit conflicted on it. Basically needs Perez and one of Win/Siss to provide the width so unless you decide not to cover the fullbacks it works out as a 4-3-3 variation anyway imo. Definitely a gamer formation rather than a practical one for the majority of sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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