Steve McClaren

[Klaus]

The midfield is absolutely the main on-field problem. The attack and the defence are s**** like, but the midfield is absolutely dismal

Grim

[Kanj]

James, He was w*** today too what the f*** are you talking about?

[Guest DebuchyAndTheBeast]

The midfield is absolutely the main on-field problem. The attack and the defence are s**** like, but the midfield is absolutely dismal, and offer absolutely nothing going forward or back. As soon as any side wins the ball from our attackers (which is frequent), they're basically at the back four immediately.

 

Agree. We're only as good as our weakest link which is our central midfield. I genuinely think that if we get 2 proper CM's who can close down people and tackle we would massively improve on the load of shit we are currently in .

[James]

James, He was w*** today too what the f*** are you talking about?

 

I know he was, the point is that the opposition can just walk right through our midfield, hence "missing"

[Wallsendmag]

Our squad is s**** but 2 wins in 14 is squarely on he manager's shoulders.

 

You need to dig a bit deeper. It's 2 wins in 14 and something like 5 wins in 2015. 2014 was a hopeless year as well. Ok so Pardew, Carver and McClaren are never going to be managing a title winning side any time soon but the players need to take a massive share of the blame here. They've failed 3 managers now and for the vast majority of the past 3 years they've barely broken sweat. Some of them are being paid more than £250,000 a month and they aren't even trying.

 

Aye Ashley has picked some poor managers (and the blame for this mess ultimately is at his door) but those players are an absolute disgrace. No coincidence that once we go a goal down it's game over because the players just down tools yet a Pardew team went a goal down against us yesterday and then preceded to rattle in 5 in return.

 

We need to start signing proper players and proper men. Not cheap fannies from the Dutch and French League.

[Ikon]

Liverpool, Tottenham, Everton and Arsenal in the next six games for us The building is about to burn down and there's no fire fighters to bee seen anywhere near.

Jesus fucking Christ! Which other club wouldn't react and do something?!? It's like being out in the middle of a perfect storm in the pacific just chillin out on the deck

eating lobster and reading a romantic book like nothing's happening. It's gone so far that we don't even think there's a tiny tiny chance anymore, that the club/the

people in charge will even lift and eye lid and consider that maybe it's time to do something, it's ridiculous and beyond what reality should be

[nufc4eva]

Liverpool, Tottenham, Everton and Arsenal in the next six games for us The building is about to burn down and there's no fire fighters to bee seen anywhere near.

Jesus f***ing Christ! Which other club wouldn't react and do something?!? It's like being out in the middle of a perfect storm in the pacific just chillin out on the deck

eating lobster and reading a romantic book like nothing's happening. It's gone so far that we don't even think there's a tiny tiny chance anymore, that the club/the

people in charge will even lift and eye lid and consider that maybe it's time to do something, it's ridiculous and beyond what reality should be

 

Buried by christmas man. No chance we are getting out of this and January will be to0little too late

[steve_69]

It's too easy to put all the blame on the players. McClaren's job is to coach them, give them belief and mould them into a winning side. There are teams full of worse players than ours doing a shitload better than we are.

 

McClaren persists with a lineup that doesn't work, continues to play Colo and has stuck with him as captain, consistently left Aarons and De Jong on the bench when we clearly lack pace and creativity and employs a motivational specialist who couldn't motivate a shit out of his own arse.

 

In short, we're fucked!

[Heron]

I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now.

[nufc4eva]

I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now.

 

You cut the cancer out of the club, banish the players not showing the effort and bring through our younger players, who may be raw but will also be up for it. Short term we need results and need to tighten up in midfield and defence, become a unit and compete. If that means dropping Sissoko, Colo or any other player pissing about then we need to make an example. Mclaren needs to stop thinking of Sissoko and Wijnaldum as wingers because more often than not it offers nothing. We need that solid centre and that may mean deploying 3 centre midfielders.

[mrmojorisin75]

I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now.

 

You cut the cancer out of the club, banish the players not showing the effort and bring through our younger players, who may be raw but will also be up for it. Short term we need results and need to tighten up in midfield and defence, become a unit and compete. If that means dropping Sissoko, Colo or any other player pissing about then we need to make an example. Mclaren needs to stop thinking of Sissoko and Wijnaldum as wingers because more often than not it offers nothing. We need that solid centre and that may mean deploying 3 centre midfielders.

 

aye, SMC has been as weak as piss from day one, taking the softly softly approach and they've ripped the piss out of him as a result

 

he should have made some hard calls from the off, dropped some of the wankers and sent a message, they clearly don't respect him and think they'll play regardless

 

and they're right

[Heron]

Aye. I agree.

[nufc4eva]

I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now.

 

You cut the cancer out of the club, banish the players not showing the effort and bring through our younger players, who may be raw but will also be up for it. Short term we need results and need to tighten up in midfield and defence, become a unit and compete. If that means dropping Sissoko, Colo or any other player pissing about then we need to make an example. Mclaren needs to stop thinking of Sissoko and Wijnaldum as wingers because more often than not it offers nothing. We need that solid centre and that may mean deploying 3 centre midfielders.

 

aye, SMC has been as weak as p*ss from day one, taking the softly softly approach and they've ripped the p*ss out of him as a result

 

he should have made some hard calls from the off, dropped some of the w*****s and sent a message, they clearly don't respect him and think they'll play regardless

 

and they're right

 

And that's the problem that the younger players like Perez are being sacrificed while Sissoko wanders about aimlessly with less fight or aggression than Anita, who at least looks like he gives a shit.

[cp40]

If I were Mclaren I would pick 2 teams in training to play each other- Id tell one team- you are the tossers- you are the team of players not wanting it- these are the players who want it-, have a game sort it out.

[nufc4eva]

If I were Mclaren I would pick 2 teams in training to play each other- Id tell one team- you are the tossers- you are the team of players not wanting it- these are the players who want it-, have a game sort it out.

 

Out of current 11 I would probably keep Janmaat, Mbemba, Anita, Perez - maybe Colback coz he gives a shit and possibly Dummet but only at CB. Jury out on Wijnaldum, Cisse played ok yesterday but won't last, Mitrovic and De Jong may be decent as well. Sissoko and Colo would be gone straight away

[Unbelievable]

It's too easy to put all the blame on the players. McClaren's job is to coach them, give them belief and mould them into a winning side. There are teams full of worse players than ours doing a shitload better than we are.

 

McClaren persists with a lineup that doesn't work, continues to play Colo and has stuck with him as captain, consistently left Aarons and De Jong on the bench when we clearly lack pace and creativity and employs a motivational specialist who couldn't motivate a s*** out of his own arse.

 

In short, we're f***ed!

 

[Tiresias]

Could backfire but what does anyone have to lose at this point, drop quite a few players, play U21s in their place who will be desperate to impress, we're probably going to lose the next few games anyway so will hardly cost us anything if they're not up to snuff. Would show the senior players they're not undroppable, hardly believe they could be worse at this point.

[Ikon]

I'd create as much of a hell as possible. Let Sissoko rot outside of the squad so that he misses out on the euros for example, he'd cry while cuddling with his Louis Vuitton bag. I'd also put Coloccini in a cage with Mitrovic after creating rumours that he's slept with his girl. I would loan out Colback to HBO so that he can spend the rest of his contract as an actor in Walking Dead.

[Tiresias]

I'd create as much of a hell as possible. Let Sissoko rot outside of the squad so that he misses out on the euros for example, he'd cry while cuddling with his Louis Vuitton bag. I'd also put Coloccini in a cage with Mitrovic after creating rumours that he's slept with his girl. I would loan out Colback to HBO so that he can spend the rest of his contract as an actor in Walking Dead.

 

[Darth Crooks]

I'd create as much of a hell as possible. Let Sissoko rot outside of the squad so that he misses out on the euros for example, he'd cry while cuddling with his Louis Vuitton bag. I'd also put Coloccini in a cage with Mitrovic after creating rumours that he's slept with his girl. I would loan out Colback to HBO so that he can spend the rest of his contract as an actor in Walking Dead.

 

Call it ITK but my sources tell me that's not happening.

[Unbelievable]

I'm sorry but if people think McClaren's best hope of turning this around is to drop its best players and lead under 21's to the slaughter against a rejuvenated Liverpool side he may as wll give up there and then. How about he comes up with a gameplan that gives our brittle defence at least some protection and our forward(s) something to work with? And how about he and his team instill some discipline and belief in these players? They may not be world beaters, but they're a damn sight better than they're showing at the moment. In fact, pretty much every single one has done so before they joined us and even in their time with us? Is there one player you can say has showed something like their best form since the start of the year? McClaren is not to blame for our problems, but he certainly isn't the solution either.

[Eddy Chibas]

I'd create as much of a hell as possible. Let Sissoko rot outside of the squad so that he misses out on the euros for example, he'd cry while cuddling with his Louis Vuitton bag. I'd also put Coloccini in a cage with Mitrovic after creating rumours that he's slept with his girl. I would loan out Colback to HBO so that he can spend the rest of his contract as an actor in Walking Dead.

 

That's a pretty good shout. Colback should play Nicholas Mach 2 - perfect for a role as the group's village coward.

[samag]

It's too easy to put all the blame on the players. McClaren's job is to coach them, give them belief and mould them into a winning side. There are teams full of worse players than ours doing a shitload better than we are.

 

McClaren persists with a lineup that doesn't work, continues to play Colo and has stuck with him as captain, consistently left Aarons and De Jong on the bench when we clearly lack pace and creativity and employs a motivational specialist who couldn't motivate a s*** out of his own arse.

 

In short, we're f***ed!

 

Watch a lot of game here in Australia and I have not see many teams with worse players , we have a squad which is bottom six at best.

[mrmojorisin75]

I'm sorry but if people think McClaren's best hope of turning this around is to drop its best players and lead under 21's to the slaughter against a rejuvenated Liverpool side he may as wll give up there and then. How about he comes up with a gameplan that gives our brittle defence at least some protection and our forward(s) something to work with? And how about he and his team instill some discipline and belief in these players? They may not be world beaters, but they're a damn sight better than they're showing at the moment. In fact, pretty much every single one has done so before they joined us and even in their time with us? Is there one player you can say has showed something like their best form since the start of the year? McClaren is not to blame for our problems, but he certainly isn't the solution either.

Fucking exactly. Taking abuse from TCD in spades yesterday for saying this exact thing in a different way. He's a football manager/coach and he should be able to affect some kind a change to our predicament with alterations in tactics and personnel but he just picks more or less the same team every week.

 

Apparently him not doing any of those things that even fat fucking Sam has started doing is all down to Ashley and Charnley.

 

It's mental, it's the same excuses Pardew used to trot out for himself but people are actually doing it for McClaren

[TRon]

I'm with Shearer - how can you coach players who don't wanna be coached? The Mike Ashley cancer has eroded this club to the core, the fans and the players and unfortunately, even the top managers wouldn't get owt out of this shower now.

 

You cut the cancer out of the club, banish the players not showing the effort and bring through our younger players, who may be raw but will also be up for it. Short term we need results and need to tighten up in midfield and defence, become a unit and compete. If that means dropping Sissoko, Colo or any other player pissing about then we need to make an example. Mclaren needs to stop thinking of Sissoko and Wijnaldum as wingers because more often than not it offers nothing. We need that solid centre and that may mean deploying 3 centre midfielders.

 

aye, SMC has been as weak as piss from day one, taking the softly softly approach and they've ripped the piss out of him as a result

 

he should have made some hard calls from the off, dropped some of the wankers and sent a message, they clearly don't respect him and think they'll play regardless

 

and they're right

 

He's done absolutely nothing to try and change things, neither does he seem to have any ideas where to go from here. You were right to point at Sunderland, think what you like about Fat Sam but he has got them defending properly if nowt else. We were all laughing at Wes Brown and Kaboul two weeks ago, now they've been transformed into a side that defends properly and looks like it can avoid relegation. Allardyce showed clarity and direction where McClaren has trotted out the same vague bullshit after every defeat.