Nobody Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the shite served up by Pards like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. My thoughts exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. My thoughts exactly. Got 40 years of memories as I said in terms of tactics, team selection, players being totally lost and ineffectual in their roles and the number of chances created by a team that was at the time totally out of form yeah it's up there. I can't stand Pardew but his record in terms of points was better than McClaren and I'll argue all day that out of the two the latter is the worst of an abysmal duo. 6 goals away from home howay man let's see if everyone is saying the same come May. When fans are arguing who is the better manager between the two it shows the sorry state of this club. Neither one should ever have been associated with this club and come May there is a good chance the fat man will regret it big time - time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. This. McClaren's worst games were made worse by the frustrating fact that it felt like it could be better. Pardew's worst games, which always seemed to happen in bunches for maximum impact, felt like a slow death march with absolutely zero hope for the future. And then as soon as 90 minutes ended we had to listen to the insulting, vile garbage he spewed regularly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. This. McClaren's worst games were made worse by the frustrating fact that it felt like it could be better. Pardew's worst games, which always seemed to happen in bunches for maximum impact, felt like a slow death march with absolutely zero hope for the future. And then as soon as 90 minutes ended we had to listen to the insulting, vile garbage he spewed regularly Frustrating as it could be better - I have heard the lot now - 6 wins out of 24, 26 scored (6 yes 6 in 12 matches away), 44 conceded and the best of all about the garbage being spewed from Pardew compared to Steve 'we played tremendous' McClaren. How anyone can have time for a a clown like McLaren is just plainly bewildering for the manager with the worst 23 game record as a Newcastle manager in the premiership. The facts speak for themselves and I couldn't give a s*** who is the bigger c*** as they are both should have been nowhere near this club at anytime. The title of this thread is very apt CLUELESS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I think if McClaren had taken over a club that hadn't been decimated by 4 years of Pardew and Ashley's polices then he'd probably have looked an OK manager. As it is his mistakes are highlighted every game and he doesn't have the strong personality we needed to turn the tide quickly which is why we are where we are. If we stay up and they invest again in some better defenders, another striker and so on then I'm sure we'll have an OK season, but certainly not the one you'd expect having invested over £100m. I'm not sure about the Pardew comparison, McClaren is poor, no doubt about it, but Pardew's propensity to get a team to collapse to big defeats is still second to none. Plus McClaren has started to get results at home against the poorer teams, something Pardew wasn't very good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Must have some incredibly short memory if you think that Everton game was anywhere near as bad as some of the s**** served up by Pards like. This. McClaren's worst games were made worse by the frustrating fact that it felt like it could be better. Pardew's worst games, which always seemed to happen in bunches for maximum impact, felt like a slow death march with absolutely zero hope for the future. And then as soon as 90 minutes ended we had to listen to the insulting, vile garbage he spewed regularly Frustrating as it could be better - I have heard the lot now - 6 wins out of 24, 26 scored (6 yes 6 in 12 matches away), 44 conceded and the best of all about the garbage being spewed from Pardew compared to Steve 'we played tremendous' McClaren. How anyone can have time for a a clown like McLaren is just plainly bewildering for the manager with the worst 23 game record as a Newcastle manager in the premiership. The facts speak for themselves and I couldn't give a s*** who is the bigger c*** as they are both should have been nowhere near this club at anytime. The title of this thread is very apt CLUELESS! You need to learn how to read better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Mind you, if McClaren finds a way to shoehorn Colback into the team when he's fit again he needs putting out of his fucking misery. That would be utterly unforgivable at this stage imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 It's ElCid man, he's on a forum that doesn't rate McLaren at all but he has to be all "I'M ELCID AND I HATE HIM MORE THAN ANY OF YOUS PUT TOGETHA RAWWWW." I agree with most of what he says like, not having it that Pardew would be doing better though, fuck that He's like Ronaldo on roids So....... Ronaldo then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I know people take the p*ss at his 'give me 10 games' quote but I think he was always going to have a hangover period from Pardew/Carver that would take time. We're hardly in good form but without looking I'd imagine since the Norwich win we're probably lower mid-table sort of form points wise. Actually I did look the other day when I was comparing us with Liverpool under Klopp and we've only 2 points fewer, so probably mid-table form then. http://i.imgur.com/887B1Hk.png We'd be 12th, this is ordered on PPG. I like that. So after we've been able to shake off the Pardew effect we're mid-table, Palace have had time to fully be taken in by the Pardew effect and they're shit. I'll stick to that narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 I like McClaren. He's much better than Pardew, my eyes and ears tell me so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What? That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching Nah. It was bad, but we've had many more like that and worse under Pardew. We were outplayed by sides in leagues below us? Thrashings were a common event under Pards. also we would have more points this year under Pardew also and that shows how s*** McClaren is. You know that making things up doesn't 'show' anything at all, don't you? Making things up lets look at every season Pardew was here and the number of games played and how many points we had at the same stage - nice try must do better More speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The thing about Mclaren is, he doesn't make me hate football, I enjoy wanting us to win, I don't despise him. Under Pardew and Carver I felt lower than under anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The thing about Mclaren is, he doesn't make me hate football, I enjoy wanting us to win, I don't despise him. Under Pardew and Carver I felt lower than under anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The thing about Mclaren is, he doesn't make me hate football, I enjoy wanting us to win, I don't despise him. Under Pardew and Carver I felt lower than under anyone. Yeah, absolutely agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Exactly. It's been said before but McClaren's best attribute is that he isn't Alan Pardew. Wanting us to lose ffs. Reems of pages on here celebrating opposition goals. Hopefully I'll never feel like that again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Exactly. It's been said before but McClaren's best attribute is that he isn't Alan Pardew. Wanting us to lose ffs. Reems of pages on here celebrating opposition goals. Hopefully I'll never feel like that again. It wasn't just that "I sort of hope of we lose, cause it might make the board sack him", (I had that with Souness, but it was never how I really felt) it was genuinely "GET IN!" when the opposition scored, and that feeling lasted about a year. Absolutely disgusting feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Exactly. It's been said before but McClaren's best attribute is that he isn't Alan Pardew. Wanting us to lose ffs. Reems of pages on here celebrating opposition goals. Hopefully I'll never feel like that again. It wasn't just that "I sort of hope of we lose, cause it might make the board sack him", (I had that with Souness, but it was never how I really felt) it was genuinely "GET IN!" when the opposition scored, and that feeling lasted about a year. Absolutely disgusting feeling. Never had this feeling of wanting the opposition to win but when form was bad under pardew a fluke win against the likes of Chelsea felt slightly bitter underneath the joy of victory as you knew it had saved him. I doubt he would have ever been sacked if we had stayed up though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 For the vast majority of games under McClaren I can see a plan and a way we want to play. Plus, these actually vary from game to game, rather than the same bilge every week. That alone makes him a tremendous upgrade on Pardew. For me it's not even a comparison, I don't hate Saturdays anymore and look forward to the possibility of a good performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 The Leicester game was bloody grim this season. Probably exacerbated by my 400 mile round trip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 There's been more than a couple absolutely abhorrent displays this season, where I've wondered how we are ever going to stand a chance of survival, with a high percentage of players patently not giving a shite. Other defeats have simply been a case of us being fairly shit and which, though worrying, tend not to have me convinced there's no way out of it. The defeats in quick succession to West Ham (a), Watford (h) and Leicester (h) were as bad as it ever was under Pardew or Carver. Games like that are an afterglow, though. Not entirely McClaren's making. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What? That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching This is utter fucking bullshit, we have never reached those depths this season in terms of attacking endeavour. I feel like I wasted 4 years of my life watching that negative speculative shite every week, not one performance this season comes close to Pardew's worst in that respect. Even Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What? That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching This is utter f***ing bullshit, we have never reached those depths this season in terms of attacking endeavour. I feel like I wasted 4 years of my life watching that negative speculative s**** every week, not one performance this season comes close to Pardew's worst in that respect. Even Palace. In your opinion fine but then again I'm in the opinion you're talking bullshit also. But each to their own we all have opinions let's just wait until the end of the season. I think both are utter cretins as managers but in my opinion McClaren is worse and I'll argue all day and night about that but as I said you are entitled to your opinion as are others and let's just see what the rest of this season brings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 That was worse than anything you saw us do under Pardew? What? That 3 - 0 defeat which could have been at least 8 or 9 oh yes it was. That was one of the worst performance from a Newcastle team I have seen in over 40 year of watching This is utter f***ing bullshit, we have never reached those depths this season in terms of attacking endeavour. I feel like I wasted 4 years of my life watching that negative speculative s**** every week, not one performance this season comes close to Pardew's worst in that respect. Even Palace. In your opinion fine but then again I'm in the opinion you're talking bullshit also. But each to their own we all have opinions let's just wait until the end of the season. I think both are utter cretins as managers but in my opinion McClaren is worse and I'll argue all day and night about that but as I said you are entitled to your opinion as are others and let's just see what the rest of this season brings. I thought Everton was absolutely rancid. Up there with some of the dross served up by his predecessors, Carver and Pardew. But McClaren worse than Pardew? Nah. I'm not having that. A new poll is needed!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 There's been more than a couple absolutely abhorrent displays this season, where I've wondered how we are ever going to stand a chance of survival, with a high percentage of players patently not giving a s****. Other defeats have simply been a case of us being fairly s*** and which, though worrying, tend not to have me convinced there's no way out of it. The defeats in quick succession to West Ham (a), Watford (h) and Leicester (h) were as bad as it ever was under Pardew or Carver. Games like that are an afterglow, though. Not entirely McClaren's making. That's my view on it. Every club going have a shocker now and again, early on there were signs of a gameplan but to change the players' mentality after what they've had the last couple of years was always going to happen. Games like Everton were abysmal this season but we've had games like that even when we were good. I don't think we'll ever be a world beater under McClaren but I think we'll eventually become a fair team trying to play the right way hovering in mid-table. Not the 'Pardew' way of getting that, far easier on the eye which we've seen signs of this season (Southampton, Norwich, Stoke, West Ham, Liverpool & West Brom at home we played very well imo). Still not good enough for where we should be, but the McClaren/Pardew argument is crazy, he's better than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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