Steve McClaren

[Joe_F]

Almost certainly  BS but Alan Brazil on TalkSport said he's been told if they get rid of McClaren they've got Redknapp lined up till the end of the season.

[r0cafella]

Almost certainly  BS but Alan Brazil on TalkSport said he's been told if they get rid of McClaren they've got Redknapp lined up till the end of the season.

Hello championship

 

[colinmk]

Redknapp would have a better chance than Shteve I reckon. Despite having a face that has dripped almost entirely to the floor, his motivational skills would surpass Mr McClarens.

[mrmojorisin75]

I don't think I could handle Redknapp like, wretched human being.

 

Has he not only had one crack at taking over a sinking ship and failed as well? Or its it two or three now with QPR?

[Guest]

He took over Spurs & Portsmouth in bad positions and turned them round. I know he had a big budget at Pompey but the initial half season when he took over from Perrin was good. Failed at Southampton & QPR though. I think he'd see us clear with the bonus of him not wanting to relocate permanently so could go for a Moyes/Rodgers in the summer.

[Spider Jerusalem]

Only Newcastle!  Moyes, Rodgers, Rafa and Mourino all available.  Linked with Redknapp!

[Guest]

Long term I think Rodgers or Moyes are ideal for us but seem to me like they'd be better with a full summer rather than coming in and getting an initial reaction. That's why I think Redknapp is a good short term fix.

[LV]

Redknapp's a spent force now imo. That trial did for him as did not getting the England job. I just don't think his heart is in it any more and I can't see him having the will for the fight to keep us up.

 

That and the fact that I can't stand him as a person makes me want him nowhere near us.

[Guest]

Offer him a couple of million bonus for keeping us up and I'm fairly certain he'd motivate himself for a few months to avoid relegation. One last pay day for him, Ashley gets his TV money. Suits both parties.

[Unbelievable]

No thanks

[Ankles Bennett]

Ashley will go to the other board members aka Charnley, Carr, and Moncur and ask if McLaren will be able to keep us in the EPL, and we all know what they will say as they chose the useless bu**er.

 

They most certainly are not going to tell Ashley like it is.  They will tell him to take no notice of the fans because we are completely overreacting and that schteve has assured them that there is no chance we will be relegated, and Ashley will believe them because they are "football people".

 

Chances are they are waiting to be sacked as well so they can get a golden handshake too.  Wouldn't surprise me if they chose McLaren for that reason in the first place.

[St1pe]

An unpopular opinion but voted no.

 

There's been some serious exaggerations since that Chelsea hammering. If we'd have taken our chances - not even most of them just the glaring opportunities we've had - we'd be well clear of the bottom three. There's been some horrible decisions like the 3 at the back phase, dropping Mitrovic away to Everton and that shambles at the weekend but overall our play has been better than it's been for seasons.

 

Unless there was a real chance of bringing someone in like Benitez - not going to happen - then the alternatives that we've been linked with are all uninspiring choices. Moyes has achieved nothing, failed miserably in his last two jobs and plays awful, turgid football. Rodgers comes across like a mini Pardew for me; he believe his own hype yet produces very little.

 

I'm not entirely convinced by McClaren after once being happy with his appointment but If we go down the majority of blame should be levelled at the player base.

 

 

 

[Interpolic]

An unpopular opinion but voted no.

 

There's been some serious exaggerations since that Chelsea hammering. If we'd have taken our chances - not even most of them just the glaring opportunities we've had - we'd be well clear of the bottom three. There's been some horrible decisions like the 3 at the back phase, dropping Mitrovic away to Everton and that shambles at the weekend but overall our play has been better than it's been for seasons.

 

Unless there was a real chance of bringing someone in like Benitez - not going to happen - then the alternatives that we've been linked with are all uninspiring choices. Moyes has achieved nothing, failed miserably in his last two jobs and plays awful, turgid football. Rodgers comes across like a mini Pardew for me; he believe his own hype yet produces very little.

 

I'm not entirely convinced by McClaren after once being happy with his appointment but If we go down the majority of blame should be levelled at the player base.

I agree with a lot of this tbh.

[Guest]

We should be creating more chances so that a missed sitter isn't costly though. Christ, how many chances did Bellamy miss particularly early on, or Dyer? Difference is we'd create so many chances we'd still score. Last two home games have been more like it but we should have been creating a lot more before that (and away obviously) so that we're not cursing a missed chance in a 0-1 or a 1-1 or whatever.

[Unbelievable]

An unpopular opinion but voted no.

 

There's been some serious exaggerations since that Chelsea hammering. If we'd have taken our chances - not even most of them just the glaring opportunities we've had - we'd be well clear of the bottom three. There's been some horrible decisions like the 3 at the back phase, dropping Mitrovic away to Everton and that shambles at the weekend but overall our play has been better than it's been for seasons.

 

Unless there was a real chance of bringing someone in like Benitez - not going to happen - then the alternatives that we've been linked with are all uninspiring choices. Moyes has achieved nothing, failed miserably in his last two jobs and plays awful, turgid football. Rodgers comes across like a mini Pardew for me; he believe his own hype yet produces very little.

 

I'm not entirely convinced by McClaren after once being happy with his appointment but If we go down the majority of blame should be levelled at the player base.

 

 

 

 

Well I disagree. McClaren was a very uninspiring appointment and where we are in the table (and cups) should not be a surprise as such. A good manager would have been able to get much more out of this squad, I'm convinced of it. There's a convincing argument that the squad is unbalanced, as we're obviously weak in certain positions but good managers are able to work out a game plan that enables the good players we do have to produce whilst protecting the weaker areas. I also firmly believe the better football argument is a bit of a myth. We're very inconsistent and for every decent game there are a couple of rank bad ones.

[Jill]

Yes. He was never an inspiring appointment but I was prepared to give him a chance, and I haven't seen anything to give me any confidence that he can fix this.

[BlueStar]

Considering how long  we held out to get this guy, I think Charnley will see sacking him this early as an admission of personal failure. Any kind if glimmer of hope over the next two games will be used as a reason to keep him. Remember how long it took us to replace Pardew? Does anyone think we've genuinely got any kind of plan for who's next?

[Lush Vlad]

An unpopular opinion but voted no.

 

There's been some serious exaggerations since that Chelsea hammering. If we'd have taken our chances - not even most of them just the glaring opportunities we've had - we'd be well clear of the bottom three. There's been some horrible decisions like the 3 at the back phase, dropping Mitrovic away to Everton and that shambles at the weekend but overall our play has been better than it's been for seasons.

 

Unless there was a real chance of bringing someone in like Benitez - not going to happen - then the alternatives that we've been linked with are all uninspiring choices. Moyes has achieved nothing, failed miserably in his last two jobs and plays awful, turgid football. Rodgers comes across like a mini Pardew for me; he believe his own hype yet produces very little.

 

I'm not entirely convinced by McClaren after once being happy with his appointment but If we go down the majority of blame should be levelled at the player base.

 

I was agreeing with a lot of what you said, but I couldn't disagree more with that last line.  They deserve their fair share of blame, aye.  But it is farcical, that it has taken McClaren so long to get anywhere near to knowing what his best XI is.  I still don't think he knows.  We took a long while to start playing decent football, longer than his 'judge me after 10 games', at least. 

 

So players have missed some sitters.  Yes, that's on them.  But barring the occasional game, where we have still ended up losing.  Our away form has been absolutely pathetic.  We've had no shape, our tactics have been non-existent and we just go out there and look like a Pardew/Carver team.  We can't defend as a unit and we don't create anything going forward.  Which is a recipe for disaster.  Is that mostly the players fault, as well?  Why can't he get a fairly talented group of individuals, to even resemble a team, FFS?  Our home form and performances, have only recently started to look respectful and a bit more consistent.  For a lot of last year, they weren't much better than some of our away games. 

 

I think he has to go, if we are to have a realistic chance of staying up.  I don't particularly like Rodgers or Moyes.  Rodgers seems like a prick and Moyes is boring as fuck, as is his football.  But I'd 100% take them over McClaren.  As they are much better managers IMO and might actually coax some life out of this team and develop some sort of game plan.  One that doesn't rely on Shelvey getting the freedom of the pitch and finding players in behind.  We're going to need to pick up points on the road, too.  Something that I don't see happening, whilst this clown is in charge.

[themanupstairs]

'appy 'arry ffs. You've got to laugh

[St1pe]

That's a good point on the away form Vlad. Aside from a few good performances where we were unlucky like at Arsenal and the win at Spurs it's been absolute toilet and that has to come from the manager.

 

I disagree on taking the other names mentioned though. I overheard someone talking earlier about bringing in a motivator to work a long side Cathro and the coaching staff like Sherwood or Redknapp and although I think those names are

laughable to replace him with I wonder if it is simply a matter of motivation and confidence.

[Guest chopey]

Lose badly at Stoke and I think Ashley will pull the trigger, Happy Harry till the summer and then start again.

[The College Dropout]

We where lucky against Spurs and Bournemouth too imo. Arsenal is the only away performance I thought we deserved more from

[lovejoy]

Lose badly at Stoke and I think Ashley will pull the trigger, Happy Harry till the summer and then start again.

 

This.

 

Another inept performance at Stoke and he'll go like, I'm sure of it.

 

Ridiculous, as this is the ideal time to change, but that's the way it will play out I think.

[samag]

An unpopular opinion but voted no.

 

There's been some serious exaggerations since that Chelsea hammering. If we'd have taken our chances - not even most of them just the glaring opportunities we've had - we'd be well clear of the bottom three. There's been some horrible decisions like the 3 at the back phase, dropping Mitrovic away to Everton and that shambles at the weekend but overall our play has been better than it's been for seasons.

 

Unless there was a real chance of bringing someone in like Benitez - not going to happen - then the alternatives that we've been linked with are all uninspiring choices. Moyes has achieved nothing, failed miserably in his last two jobs and plays awful, turgid football. Rodgers comes across like a mini Pardew for me; he believe his own hype yet produces very little.

 

I'm not entirely convinced by McClaren after once being happy with his appointment but If we go down the majority of blame should be levelled at the player base.

 

 

 

 

Said it before unless we can get someone better they is little point in sacking him. I have no faith in the board to attract anyone better.. the fact he was appointed a few weeks after turning us down , and being sacked by Derby says a lot for me about the board. . I share the same view about Rodgers, think he is another Pardew.. would not want him  Agree with most of his tbh.

[Lush Vlad]

Whilst it is hard to see the board making a decent decision, regarding a new manager.  That sort of attitude, would mean we'd still be stuck with Pardew.  I think having that view, would also ensure that we go down.  As it's the only way we're headed under McClaren.