johnnypd Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Utter cunt. And has the makings of a very good manager. won't be long till he's in demand by a host of clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Steve McLaren Utter cunt. That is all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 If the FA take Allardyce, go for Bilic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 If the FA take Allardyce, go for Bilic! Fuck that. Id rather the FA go straight for Bilic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I said about Bilic when Roeder was sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I like the way he moves on the sidelines, he covers alot of ground and makes people know his thoughts. Good job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 If the FA take Allardyce, go for Bilic! f*** that. Id rather the FA go straight for Bilic. yeah, but I'm thinking about whats best for Newcastle, fuck England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I bet Sven is having a good laugh! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Fucking gyppo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 i like that he smokes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I like the way he moves on the sidelines, he covers alot of ground and makes people know his thoughts. Good job. He sort of summed up what was wrong with our last two tenures really. He was shouting and wailing and jumping up and down..... when his side were winning and through anyway. Every time the camera panned to McClaren, he was either sat down drinking water, or just not there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I like the way he moves on the sidelines, he covers alot of ground and makes people know his thoughts. Good job. He sort of summed up what was wrong with our last two tenures really. He was shouting and wailing and jumping up and down..... when his side were winning and through anyway. Every time the camera panned to McClaren, he was either sat down drinking water, or just not there. And Venables was looking just like Phil Neal in that documentary about Sir Graham Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leazes.ender Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I was very impressed by Bilic last time in Zagreb. All the talk about 4-5-1 and on that night 3-5-2 he basically said "systems are dead". And he's right. Football is played on reactions these days and its about how players cover the ground to protect the ball or their goal. The Croatian 2nd was proof of that when too many england players went to the ball instead of doing their job defending. The system didn't cost Englnd tonight, bad players, bad selections and bad BRAINS cost them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leazes.ender Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 And Venables was looking just like Phil Neal in that documentary about Sir Graham Taylor. Don't mention that pillock....and i'm not talking about Phil Neal or Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I bet Sven is having a good laugh! And rightly so. The English media is a cancer to the national team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Venables is a cockney criminal spiv who shouldn't be allowed within 100 miles of any kind of gainful employment, let alone a football club. And yes, I'm aware that would mean he'd have to live at sea in a boat. And apart from being a crook he's a crap football manager as well. Oh, I forgot, he got us to the semis of the European Championships. A feat that every other host nation has managed with the exception of Belgium in 2000, which our London press conveniently tend to forget as they have a group wank over how 'great' we were in that tournament. (You may or may not be able to guess that Mr T Venables is not my most favourite football manager ever) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I bet Sven is having a good laugh! And rightly so. The English media is a cancer to the national team. a general chat thing but the english media is a cancer to the nation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I was very impressed by Bilic last time in Zagreb. All the talk about 4-5-1 and on that night 3-5-2 he basically said "systems are dead". And he's right. Football is played on reactions these days and its about how players cover the ground to protect the ball or their goal. The Croatian 2nd was proof of that when too many england players went to the ball instead of doing their job defending. The system didn't cost Englnd tonight, bad players, bad selections and bad BRAINS cost them. "systems" are basically bullshit. They are used by people who make excuses for losing. Problems with English football are far deeper than this too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I was very impressed by Bilic last time in Zagreb. All the talk about 4-5-1 and on that night 3-5-2 he basically said "systems are dead". And he's right. Football is played on reactions these days and its about how players cover the ground to protect the ball or their goal. The Croatian 2nd was proof of that when too many england players went to the ball instead of doing their job defending. The system didn't cost Englnd tonight, bad players, bad selections and bad BRAINS cost them. "systems" are basically bullshit. They are used by people who make excuses for losing. Problems with English football are far deeper than this too bullshit. if he didnt have a system he'd put out the best 10 outfield players, guess what he plays specialist defenders,one or two players who are crap at right back but good at creating chances....how does he get round this...he uses a system. too much can be made of systems but you are right about the problems being deeper than that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Utter cunt. And has the makings of a very good manager. won't be long till he's in demand by a host of clubs. he might well have johnny. However, I think the time has come for England to appoint a manager who has proved he knows the international game and is successful at it. How good he can be, I don;t know. You can't buy and sell players like you do at club level. But someone like him, or Scolari, is the direction they should go now. A different topic completely, is how to improve the quality of English players, because even the best managers are still limited by limitations of players. Team selections and poor motivation are the reasons why smuggins isn't the right manager for England. It should make me smile, that all the cockney tosser journos who slated Keegan have found that their own darlings are doing no better, in fact in smuggins case, worse. Smuggins will be gone soon. He may have the support of one or two idiots, but a manager who is booed by a shitty little club like the smoggies, will never be good enough for England. But it doesn't make me smile, not in a pleasing way anyway, because I used to go and watch England a lot when I worked down south in the late 1970's and early 1980's, and got to be quite enthusiastic about it all. I feel different now, totally different in fact. I thought Croatia were excellent tonight. Their control of their own game, the control of their possession, their composure and the ability to play their possession at the pace they wanted, was top class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Team selections and poor motivation are the reasons why smuggins isn't the right manager for England. It should make me smile, that all the cockney tosser journos who slated Keegan have found that their own darlings are doing no better, in fact in smuggins case, worse. In which way is McClaren a darling of the London media? Born in Yorkshire, so clearly not a regional thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 A different topic completely, is how to improve the quality of English players, because even the best managers are still limited by limitations of players. Only two feasible things can be done imo: 1) More technical coaching from a younger age. 2) Incorporate a system where talented youngsters or domestic players can be bought for fair prices from smaller clubs. Enforce a minimum fee release clause into every contract (as in Spain), enable co-ownership (as in Italy), etc etc. Nicky Shorey, for example, should be at a bigger and better club by now (eg ours), but instead hes stuck at Reading because they wont sell for a reasonable price after one half decent England performance. Instead, Newcaslte end up with Enrique, and although that works out for the club, it means stagnation for Shorey - not because a foreigner has prevented him from being at a better club, but because his own club have priced him out of the move (not factual, but its probably true given the various quotes by Reading's manager/board about his potential sale). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 3) Pick the best team, not the best players. England's biggest problem for decades now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I bet Sven is having a good laugh! And rightly so. The English media is a cancer to the national team. Mind you, Sven was sacked at the right time. I was backing him for a long time, but even with hindsight, I would've still have had him sacked after WC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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