The Magedia Thread - Sunderland suck trollolololol

[Big Geordie]

What was Richardson saying and who did Green racially abuse? (just out of interest)

[OzzieMandias]

  I like Richardson, who doesn't

 

Me.

[Neil]

Interesting remarks on Inside Sport.

 

"At least Newcastle's players look like they care, performances at Spurs are no more than pathetic at the moment."

[Elliottman]

Interesting remarks on Inside Sport.

 

"At least Newcastle's players look like they care, performances at Spurs are no more than pathetic at the moment."

 

thats what we have in our favour, and that fact we have, what, 8 1st team players to come back. Spurs i believe are pretty much at full strengh.

[Guest Scouseman]

On the Beeb site, contrast Phil McNulty's blog about Spud's problems with the vile that is written about us.

 

It's well written, shows an element of knowledge of the situation and points out the real problems.

 

Why do they just get lazy and rely on cliches when it comes to us, too far up north for them ?

 

On the Beeb site, contrast Phil McNulty's blog about Spud's problems with the vile that is written about us.

 

It's well written, shows an element of knowledge of the situation and points out the real problems.

 

Why do they just get lazy and really on cliches when it comes to us, too far up north for them ?

 

Phil McNulty is a glory hunting Man U supporting t*** who knows nothing about us. His second team is the wonderful Spurs who he tips to break into the top 4 every year. Then sticks up for them every time they don't.

 

McNultys a Scouser who worked for the Liverpool Echo for many years before getting the job at the Beeb.  As far as I know he's an Evertonian, but maybe Joe Royle would give you argument against that.

[Guest Scouseman]

Don't let the Mancs read that, because they all hate Green to a man. They believe that he is biased against their club, and is said to be a Liverpool supporter to boot.

 

That's because he does hate us, more specifically he's invented a one sided feud with SAF and openly admits to "hating" him.  He's also racially abused one of our players in the past, its fair to say he's no fan of the club.  Most Man utd fans became sick of him after he had the most ridiculous heart attack over Gary Neville's taunting the scousers a few years back.  I don't really think he's a liverpool fan (though he certainly fellates St Steven endlessly) he's just an egotistical hysterical prat with an annoying accent.

 

Just heard James Richardson on the guardian football podcast being a bit of a dick about your manager.  I like Richardson, who doesn't, but he was being absurdly harsh.

 

Greene is a season ticket holding Red, as are his sons. 

[Guest quklaani]

What was Richardson saying and who did Green racially abuse? (just out of interest)

 

Richardson was just going about how pathetic he was, even about stuff like missing the goals.  Seemed like maybe he's got a grudge. Oh and it was the Djemba twins, what he said was rather tame so you might think it was nothing, but he's got form.

[Guest Phil K]

Wasn't McNulty famous for his attack on newcastle - City, Club and Fans after Dalglish left ?

Wasn't he the McNulty did this while with a Liverpool rag ? "If you lie down with dogs" ?

[thenige]

She's back! Everyone's favourite Guardian hack.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/oct/09/premierleague.newcastleunited

 

Kinnear needs a programme he can swear by

 

Perhaps a collection of mild-mannered managers could give Joe Kinnear lessons in charming the press

 

Oh to be a fly on the wall if Joe Kinnear is ever coaxed into attending the League Managers Association media training course. Shocked by the Newcastle United interim coach's recent press conference swearfest, the LMA hopes he will sign up for some remedial therapy.

 

It would be even more fun if JFK - get it? - was subjected to a re-programming process. I hope the LMA will give serious thought to my proposal that Lennie Lawrence, David O'Leary, Sir Bobby Robson, Roy Keane and Sven-Goran Eriksson will each provide private tutorials in different aspects of media manipulation, sorry "management".

 

Lawrence genuinely liked certain reporters but appreciated many are just as egotistical yet insecure as footballers. "Get the press on your side," as the former Charlton and Middlesbrough manager once reflected, could be lesson one at the whiteboard. "You can buy yourself an extra six months in a tough job, or even get a better one."

 

Like Lawrence, our second lecturer is only too familiar with the nuanced shades of grey characterising the symbiotic relationship between managers and journalists. Step forward Sir Bobby Robson. Quite apart from introducing a vocabulary-expanding exercise so the student becomes acquainted with the words dignified, magnanimous and generous but is advised to steer clear of paranoid, the one-time England and Newcastle manager can deconstruct the concept of the siege mentality as a modern media strategy. Kinnear calling individual reporters the "c" word may or may not have been part of a grand plan, intended to engender an "us against the world" ethos but, at a time when Newcastle United is being marketed as an international brand, greater sophistication is required.

 

Lateral thinking too but, before we come to Roy Keane's tutorial, David O'Leary is booked for session three; working title "The Charm Offensive".

 

Now the Irishman has manifold faults but there was a time, when his Leeds United side began flying high and Lee Bowyer and Jonathan Woodgate were still to stand trial, that O'Leary had some of England's leading sports writers eating out of his hand. Deploying a mix of good manners and rudimentary psychology he developed a habit of looking these men straight in the eye, addressing them by their first names and even phoning a few favourites - ie the most influential - for cosy chats.

 

It worked. Granted Leeds played some really nice stuff, but the number of gushing 1,000-word pieces extolling O'Leary's virtues was disproportionate. Had he not self-destructed, those eulogies might just have helped land him the Real Madrid or Chelsea posts.

 

But then, if media skills were as important as tactical vision or transfer market acumen, Keane would have already bundled Sir Alex Ferguson out of the Manchester United hotseat.

 

Sunderland's articulate, publicly expletive-free, manager affects to understand the enemy that is the press. Having expressed sympathy for a profession frequently under pressure to apply journalistic top-spin to the usual anodyne comments, Keane is capable of seeing newspapers as the next day's fish and chip wrapper rather than a reason to keep his libel lawyer on speed-dial.

 

Yet while media relations are often mere sub-plots in football's drama, managers still need the right skills to keep reporters sweet. Keane - who increasingly uses am-dram-style eye rolls to signify displeasure - believes they must "be actors, playing different roles, with different people".

 

He can devote the remainder of his tutorial to the knack of addressing assorted, often unrelated, issues which deflect attention from a disappointing team performance. Certainly after being treated to Keane's discourses on the shopping habits of Wags and the hypocrisy of fellow managers, it seems almost churlish to criticise his, at times, bizarre transfer market acquisitions.

 

As anyone connected with Manchester City or England will tell you, civility is the "c" word synonymous with Eriksson. The current Mexico coach - a man as likely to swear at writers as ignore an opportunity to chat up a pretty woman - can fly in to Heathrow to complete JFK's re-programming. Like all his co-tutors, Eriksson is flawed. No matter. The Swede's impeccable courtesy towards everyone who enters his orbit means he will remembered for much more than being a decent coach with a penchant for chasing a bit of skirt and a fast buck. Sometimes manners really do maketh managers.

 

To sum up, Roy Keane good, Joe Kinnear bad.

[Paully]

I love her perm 

[GM]

Absolutely nothing wrong with that article, tbh. Some people have bigger agendas than some of the journalists writing about us do.

[Kitman]

Absolutely nothing wrong with that article, tbh. Some people have bigger agendas than some of the journalists writing about us do.

 

Apart from it being a bit boring and self important?

[nobby_solano]

it didn't really have much of a point other than for her to point out how much she  roy keane ... again

[Benwell Lad]

Poor Louise has to be a contributory factor in why the once proud Gaurdian is now a laughing stock which is handed out free everywhere as no one will buy it.

 

JFK - FFS - didn't nufc.com use that one the day he was appointed and hasn't every other medium used it since. Geddit ?

[dustynrg]

it didn't really have much of a point other than for her to point out how much she  roy keane ... again

 

It's like she's said FFS I need to write an article about something, how can I slag off Newcastle this week?

 

Oh aye I'll use the JFK thing and how wonderful Keano is with the press.

 

Pathetic I tell ya.

[madras]

it didn't really have much of a point other than for her to point out how much she  roy keane ... again

 

It's like she's said FFS I need to write an article about something, how can I slag off Newcastle this week?

 

Oh aye I'll use the JFK thing and how wonderful Keano is with the press.

 

Pathetic I tell ya.

sums up a lot of this country. he may have swung a punch at someone,and set out with the intention of finishing a fellow professionals career with an act of actual bodily harm but he gives good interview therefore he's a good guy.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Poor Louise has to be a contributory factor in why the once proud Gaurdian is now a laughing stock which is handed out free everywhere as no one will buy it.

 

JFK - FFS - didn't nufc.com use that one the day he was appointed and hasn't every other medium used it since. Geddit ?

 

I rate the Guardian generally but it is amazing how they maintain Louise Taylor on the staff. It's like they think just because it's sport they need a couple of cretins in the department.

[Syrette]

I like the Guardian too, especially on the weekend. Not so much for the sport features and reports, but to be honest I get all my football news and views elsewhere anyway.

[dustynrg]

it didn't really have much of a point other than for her to point out how much she  roy keane ... again

 

It's like she's said FFS I need to write an article about something, how can I slag off Newcastle this week?

 

Oh aye I'll use the JFK thing and how wonderful Keano is with the press.

 

Pathetic I tell ya.

sums up a lot of this country. he may have swung a punch at someone,and set out with the intention of finishing a fellow professionals career with an act of actual bodily harm but he gives good interview therefore he's a good guy.

 

Exactly. We'll never find out but I wonder what would happen if the Dark One ever became our Manager? Would she be joining NUSC and visiting the Irish Club?

[Benwell Lad]

So long overdue. Well done Joe lad.

 

http://issue.monkeymag.co.uk/1A48e6304bb442f012.cde/page/5

[Guest fraser]

She's back! Everyone's favourite Guardian hack.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/oct/09/premierleague.newcastleunited

 

Kinnear needs a programme he can swear by

 

Perhaps a collection of mild-mannered managers could give Joe Kinnear lessons in charming the press

 

Oh to be a fly on the wall if Joe Kinnear is ever coaxed into attending the League Managers Association media training course. Shocked by the Newcastle United interim coach's recent press conference swearfest, the LMA hopes he will sign up for some remedial therapy.

 

It would be even more fun if JFK - get it? - was subjected to a re-programming process. I hope the LMA will give serious thought to my proposal that Lennie Lawrence, David O'Leary, Sir Bobby Robson, Roy Keane and Sven-Goran Eriksson will each provide private tutorials in different aspects of media manipulation, sorry "management".

 

Lawrence genuinely liked certain reporters but appreciated many are just as egotistical yet insecure as footballers. "Get the press on your side," as the former Charlton and Middlesbrough manager once reflected, could be lesson one at the whiteboard. "You can buy yourself an extra six months in a tough job, or even get a better one."

 

Like Lawrence, our second lecturer is only too familiar with the nuanced shades of grey characterising the symbiotic relationship between managers and journalists. Step forward Sir Bobby Robson. Quite apart from introducing a vocabulary-expanding exercise so the student becomes acquainted with the words dignified, magnanimous and generous but is advised to steer clear of paranoid, the one-time England and Newcastle manager can deconstruct the concept of the siege mentality as a modern media strategy. Kinnear calling individual reporters the "c" word may or may not have been part of a grand plan, intended to engender an "us against the world" ethos but, at a time when Newcastle United is being marketed as an international brand, greater sophistication is required.

 

Lateral thinking too but, before we come to Roy Keane's tutorial, David O'Leary is booked for session three; working title "The Charm Offensive".

 

Now the Irishman has manifold faults but there was a time, when his Leeds United side began flying high and Lee Bowyer and Jonathan Woodgate were still to stand trial, that O'Leary had some of England's leading sports writers eating out of his hand. Deploying a mix of good manners and rudimentary psychology he developed a habit of looking these men straight in the eye, addressing them by their first names and even phoning a few favourites - ie the most influential - for cosy chats.

 

It worked. Granted Leeds played some really nice stuff, but the number of gushing 1,000-word pieces extolling O'Leary's virtues was disproportionate. Had he not self-destructed, those eulogies might just have helped land him the Real Madrid or Chelsea posts.

 

But then, if media skills were as important as tactical vision or transfer market acumen, Keane would have already bundled Sir Alex Ferguson out of the Manchester United hotseat.

 

Sunderland's articulate, publicly expletive-free, manager affects to understand the enemy that is the press. Having expressed sympathy for a profession frequently under pressure to apply journalistic top-spin to the usual anodyne comments, Keane is capable of seeing newspapers as the next day's fish and chip wrapper rather than a reason to keep his libel lawyer on speed-dial.

 

Yet while media relations are often mere sub-plots in football's drama, managers still need the right skills to keep reporters sweet. Keane - who increasingly uses am-dram-style eye rolls to signify displeasure - believes they must "be actors, playing different roles, with different people".

 

He can devote the remainder of his tutorial to the knack of addressing assorted, often unrelated, issues which deflect attention from a disappointing team performance. Certainly after being treated to Keane's discourses on the shopping habits of Wags and the hypocrisy of fellow managers, it seems almost churlish to criticise his, at times, bizarre transfer market acquisitions.

 

As anyone connected with Manchester City or England will tell you, civility is the "c" word synonymous with Eriksson. The current Mexico coach - a man as likely to swear at writers as ignore an opportunity to chat up a pretty woman - can fly in to Heathrow to complete JFK's re-programming. Like all his co-tutors, Eriksson is flawed. No matter. The Swede's impeccable courtesy towards everyone who enters his orbit means he will remembered for much more than being a decent coach with a penchant for chasing a bit of skirt and a fast buck. Sometimes manners really do maketh managers.

 

To sum up, Roy Keane good, Joe Kinnear bad.

 

An alternative sum up: I've got a bit of spare time on my hands, need to justify my salary, Guardian readers'll (no disrespect) buy into this.

[OzzieMandias]

God, that's a crap article. It's not funny, it's not clever, it's not informative, it contains no interesting opinions. It's not even annoying.

[Benwell Lad]

God, that's a crap article. It's not funny, it's not clever, it's not informative, it contains no interesting opinions. It's not even annoying.

 

In fact it's just Louise all over. Little wonder no fecker buys the Grauniad any more.

[tgarve]

She's back! Everyone's favourite Guardian hack.

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2008/oct/09/premierleague.newcastleunited

 

Kinnear needs a programme he can swear by

 

Perhaps a collection of mild-mannered managers could give Joe Kinnear lessons in charming the press

 

Oh to be a fly on the wall if Joe Kinnear is ever coaxed into attending the League Managers Association media training course. Shocked by the Newcastle United interim coach's recent press conference swearfest, the LMA hopes he will sign up for some remedial therapy.

 

It would be even more fun if JFK - get it? - was subjected to a re-programming process. I hope the LMA will give serious thought to my proposal that Lennie Lawrence, David O'Leary, Sir Bobby Robson, Roy Keane and Sven-Goran Eriksson will each provide private tutorials in different aspects of media manipulation, sorry "management".

 

Lawrence genuinely liked certain reporters but appreciated many are just as egotistical yet insecure as footballers. "Get the press on your side," as the former Charlton and Middlesbrough manager once reflected, could be lesson one at the whiteboard. "You can buy yourself an extra six months in a tough job, or even get a better one."

 

Like Lawrence, our second lecturer is only too familiar with the nuanced shades of grey characterising the symbiotic relationship between managers and journalists. Step forward Sir Bobby Robson. Quite apart from introducing a vocabulary-expanding exercise so the student becomes acquainted with the words dignified, magnanimous and generous but is advised to steer clear of paranoid, the one-time England and Newcastle manager can deconstruct the concept of the siege mentality as a modern media strategy. Kinnear calling individual reporters the "c" word may or may not have been part of a grand plan, intended to engender an "us against the world" ethos but, at a time when Newcastle United is being marketed as an international brand, greater sophistication is required.

 

Lateral thinking too but, before we come to Roy Keane's tutorial, David O'Leary is booked for session three; working title "The Charm Offensive".

 

Now the Irishman has manifold faults but there was a time, when his Leeds United side began flying high and Lee Bowyer and Jonathan Woodgate were still to stand trial, that O'Leary had some of England's leading sports writers eating out of his hand. Deploying a mix of good manners and rudimentary psychology he developed a habit of looking these men straight in the eye, addressing them by their first names and even phoning a few favourites - ie the most influential - for cosy chats.

 

It worked. Granted Leeds played some really nice stuff, but the number of gushing 1,000-word pieces extolling O'Leary's virtues was disproportionate. Had he not self-destructed, those eulogies might just have helped land him the Real Madrid or Chelsea posts.

 

But then, if media skills were as important as tactical vision or transfer market acumen, Keane would have already bundled Sir Alex Ferguson out of the Manchester United hotseat.

 

Sunderland's articulate, publicly expletive-free, manager affects to understand the enemy that is the press. Having expressed sympathy for a profession frequently under pressure to apply journalistic top-spin to the usual anodyne comments, Keane is capable of seeing newspapers as the next day's fish and chip wrapper rather than a reason to keep his libel lawyer on speed-dial.

 

Yet while media relations are often mere sub-plots in football's drama, managers still need the right skills to keep reporters sweet. Keane - who increasingly uses am-dram-style eye rolls to signify displeasure - believes they must "be actors, playing different roles, with different people".

 

He can devote the remainder of his tutorial to the knack of addressing assorted, often unrelated, issues which deflect attention from a disappointing team performance. Certainly after being treated to Keane's discourses on the shopping habits of Wags and the hypocrisy of fellow managers, it seems almost churlish to criticise his, at times, bizarre transfer market acquisitions.

 

As anyone connected with Manchester City or England will tell you, civility is the "c" word synonymous with Eriksson. The current Mexico coach - a man as likely to swear at writers as ignore an opportunity to chat up a pretty woman - can fly in to Heathrow to complete JFK's re-programming. Like all his co-tutors, Eriksson is flawed. No matter. The Swede's impeccable courtesy towards everyone who enters his orbit means he will remembered for much more than being a decent coach with a penchant for chasing a bit of skirt and a fast buck. Sometimes manners really do maketh managers.

 

To sum up, Roy Keane good, Joe Kinnear bad.

 

An alternative sum up: I've got a bit of spare time on my hands, need to justify my salary, Guardian readers'll (no disrespect) buy into this.

 

lost interest in 2nd paragraph

[Dave]

'It's a little known perk of the job for football journalists, but at the end of every season, Nike invite a team of hacks to play at Old Trafford: the real pitch, the real kit, against real legends. Step forward Nuts journalist Adam Ralph. A 'lifelong' United supporter from Clapham, on his first trip to the Theatre of Dreams, the self-named 'silver fox' got to chow down on the same table as Denis Irwin, the living United legend.

 

'During the Q&A session over dessert, Nuts writer Ralph puts up his hand and asks the following question in front of the 'real' writers and his United heroes:

 

"Denis, do you remember where you were when United won the Treble in Barcelona in '99?" The Irishman paused briefly, looked up at Ralph and answered softly:

 

"Oh yes, son. I was playing left back." Cue Adam Ralph turning the colour of his hastily purchased United shirt.'

 

Pwnd.