Guest Phil K Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 PP...that "dry your eyes" would apply more to you than me - You were the tantrum thrower, not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 doubt you'll get a bite this time phil. He's spot on. What is there to bite about? Ah theres certain characters like Madras - and a few of the moderators, believe it or not - who will pick up on almost every post I make and try to get others to join in on the flaming, knowing I bite back and get them screaming abuse (have a check at the Beckford/Boyd thread for an example) Pretty much like a pack of scabby cats at night on a wall - one starts yowling and then the rest join in ! theres certain people like you....well just you actually, that will try to make out that i jump on every post you make yet you forget about times when i've agreed with you and , the majority of times when i just haven't posted or even seen what you've posted. we do get a raw deal off the press but that piece that you kicked off about was COMPLIMENTARY TOWARDS US, BOTH FANS AND TEAM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 You know, Isaac Asimov was the only author who ever answered all stuff addressed to him - just following his example ! To do that you'd have to write something worth reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 You know, Isaac Asimov was the only author who ever answered all stuff addressed to him - just following his example ! To do that you'd have to write something worth reading. i wonder if phil k reads sci fi ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Why Newcastle transfer window signings suggest the club will never again be a major player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Seen my post in the other thread. The article is spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 That because we 'only' have 6 players in our Championship squad that are premier league quality we'll never again be a big player, ever? Will any Championship club ever make it big in the premiership then? Who were Stoke and Birmingham, the current teams that seem to be going in an upwards direction, buying when they were in the Championship, Messi and Ronaldo? In ten years time, no matter who owns the club, who's playing for the team or what happens elsewhere we'll be doomed to eternal mediocrity because in 2010 we bought Leon Best? Guess we should be going for another Luque or Michael Owen, that seemed to work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Amen to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 That because we 'only' have 6 players in our Championship squad that are premier league quality we'll never again be a big player, ever? Will any Championship club ever make it big in the premiership then? Who were Stoke and Birmingham, the current teams that seem to be going in an upwards direction, buying when they were in the Championship, Messi and Ronaldo? In ten years time, no matter who owns the club, who's playing for the team or what happens elsewhere we'll be doomed to eternal mediocrity because in 2010 we bought Leon Best? Guess we should be going for another Luque or Michael Owen, that seemed to work. Pretty much this. I personally think the basis of the article is a massive pile of shit. What superstars did other Championship clubs bring in then in this January transfer window where the least money was spent on players for the last 5 or so years and clubs are going into adinistration and massively struggling financially? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I hate the term 'Geordie Abramovich'. It makes us sound like the only owner we want is a geordie worth 20 Billion, which I don't think exists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I think it was Shepherd who used that expression. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I think it was Shepherd who used that expression. figures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Why Newcastle transfer window signings suggest the club will never again be a major player McNally dates the decline back to the days of Sir Bob, but then blames Ashley when obviously it was Shepherd who was in charge at the time. Both men made mistakes. It makes for a nice story to have a hero and a villain, but the picture is a lot more complicated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I think it was Shepherd who used that expression. figures Think it was the summer before he left, he said he'd only ever dream of selling up if a 'Geordie Abramovich' came along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 well that mcnally article was as bizzarre as anything thing i've read recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustynrg Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Seems spot on to me, especially if as he says Enrique, Colo and Jonas leave to be replaced by Simpson, Raylor and Hall lookalikes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Yeah, like that'll happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Newcastle may well win promotion from a division that is embarrassingly poor this season. But Ashley has so undermined the club's infrastructure with his relentless cost-cutting that I simply can't see United surviving in the Premiership without a regime-change and a massive injection of funds. So despite the spectre of free-spending Portsmouth crashing out of existence, and both Man U and Liverpool teetering financial ruin, this journo thinks it's business as usual in the premiership and it's all spend/spend/spend. Ignore Arsenal, ignore Fulham, ignore Villa - ignore all the clubs that have a reasonable grasp on their finances. The world of football is starting to change, but this journalist probably skipped Economics at school and thinks that it must be spend/spend/spend. It's not how much you spend, but what you buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Newcastle may well win promotion from a division that is embarrassingly poor this season. But Ashley has so undermined the club's infrastructure with his relentless cost-cutting that I simply can't see United surviving in the Premiership without a regime-change and a massive injection of funds. So despite the spectre of free-spending Portsmouth crashing out of existence, and both Man U and Liverpool teetering financial ruin, this journo thinks it's business as usual in the premiership and it's all spend/spend/spend. Ignore Arsenal, ignore Fulham, ignore Villa - ignore all the clubs that have a reasonable grasp on their finances. The world of football is starting to change, but this journalist probably skipped Economics at school and thinks that it must be spend/spend/spend. It's not how much you spend, but what you buy. and also if the finances are now in order(ish) wouldn't that leave cash to spend in the summer if we get promoted ? so far ashley has been able to hide behind the economic position the club was in to whichever degree you accept it, no-one can say we could go on spending (not just transfer fees but wages etc). however,should we get promoted he'll have nowhere to hide even from those who think our position was dire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I love the fact that every year this is a tough league, but just because we're top it's 'embarrassingly poor'. Don't see in what way it's worse this year than in recent seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Newcastle may well win promotion from a division that is embarrassingly poor this season. But Ashley has so undermined the club's infrastructure with his relentless cost-cutting that I simply can't see United surviving in the Premiership without a regime-change and a massive injection of funds. What infrastructure is he talking about? The infrastructure of hugely paid and terribly performing wasters like Owen, Martins, Viduka and Duff ect? Also have to say that allowing Hughton to keep the likes of Jonas, Smith, Nolan, Enrique, Taylor and Coloccini ect on huge wages can hardly be called relentless cost cutting. We're in the Championship FFS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Newcastle may well win promotion from a division that is embarrassingly poor this season. But Ashley has so undermined the club's infrastructure with his relentless cost-cutting that I simply can't see United surviving in the Premiership without a regime-change and a massive injection of funds. What infrastructure is his talking about? The infrastructure of hugely paid and terribly performing wasters like Owen, Martins, Viduka and Duff ect? Also have to say that allowing Hughton to keep the likes of Jonas, Smith, Nolan, Coloccini ect on huge wages can hardly be called relentless cost cutting. We're in the Championship FFS! who's to say he let hughton keep them as opposed to not recieving any decent offers ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Texas Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Yep - it's a poor league despite the fact that it's being lead by two teams that played premiership football last season. It's just convienient for it to be poor for the sake of this article.....if they were writing about Forrest it would be a tough league because of a club the size of Newcastle etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Newcastle may well win promotion from a division that is embarrassingly poor this season. But Ashley has so undermined the club's infrastructure with his relentless cost-cutting that I simply can't see United surviving in the Premiership without a regime-change and a massive injection of funds. What infrastructure is his talking about? The infrastructure of hugely paid and terribly performing wasters like Owen, Martins, Viduka and Duff ect? Also have to say that allowing Hughton to keep the likes of Jonas, Smith, Nolan, Coloccini ect on huge wages can hardly be called relentless cost cutting. We're in the Championship FFS! who's to say he let hughton keep them as opposed to not recieving any decent offers ? Hughton, if you don't believe him then fine, not going to get into another "who says it is, who says its not" argument Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Newcastle may well win promotion from a division that is embarrassingly poor this season. But Ashley has so undermined the club's infrastructure with his relentless cost-cutting that I simply can't see United surviving in the Premiership without a regime-change and a massive injection of funds. What infrastructure is his talking about? The infrastructure of hugely paid and terribly performing wasters like Owen, Martins, Viduka and Duff ect? Also have to say that allowing Hughton to keep the likes of Jonas, Smith, Nolan, Coloccini ect on huge wages can hardly be called relentless cost cutting. We're in the Championship FFS! who's to say he let hughton keep them as opposed to not recieving any decent offers ? Hughton, if you don't believe him then fine, not going to get into another "who says it is, who says its not" argument if true, it's something i didn't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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