Bafetimbi Gomis

[Mole_Toonfan]

Translation: We are cheap wankers.

[Hughesy]

Thing with Gomis' wages is, it's not simply a case of giving him £65k a week or whatever, but I imagine we probably offered him the same as what the likes of Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Cisse, Debuchy, Mbiwa, etc which sounds less than Gomis' Lyon wage. I guess a pay structure is all well and good, but if a player of a similar level to all of those and not a great deal better, comes in on bigger wages, you get the others wanting the same. An extra £5k a week all of a sudden looks like an extra £30-40k a week.

 

Yep.

[Rich]

Thing with Gomis' wages is, it's not simply a case of giving him £65k a week or whatever, but I imagine we probably offered him the same as what the likes of Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Cisse, Debuchy, Mbiwa, etc which sounds less than Gomis' Lyon wage. I guess a pay structure is all well and good, but if a player of a similar level to all of those and not a great deal better, comes in on bigger wages, you get the others wanting the same. An extra £5k a week all of a sudden looks like an extra £30-40k a week.

 

Yep.

 

A fair point, definitely, but how is it relevant to this?

 

Gomis: 'Lyon and Newcastle agreed a fee of €8m plus €2m bonuses but then Newcastle went back on my agreement w/ them.'

[Dave]

How do other clubs manage these wage increase demands I'm always reading about?

[midds]

Don't believe for a second we were genuinely interested in signing him. Had everything been agreed then he would have 'failed' the medical a la Maiga and the deal would have been off. We threw bids in and strung it out but had push come to shove then we'd have found a reason and backed out regardless.

 

Small-time cunts, man. Zero expenditure, zero ambition.

[Mick]

Thing with Gomis' wages is, it's not simply a case of giving him £65k a week or whatever, but I imagine we probably offered him the same as what the likes of Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Cisse, Debuchy, Mbiwa, etc which sounds less than Gomis' Lyon wage. I guess a pay structure is all well and good, but if a player of a similar level to all of those and not a great deal better, comes in on bigger wages, you get the others wanting the same. An extra £5k a week all of a sudden looks like an extra £30-40k a week.

 

He's claiming that we went back on an agreement.

[sempuki]

I am more inclined to believe him tbh.

[TRon]

I am more inclined to believe him tbh.

 

I'm not. I think he probably considered coming here, but it was for money mainly. I think he'd prefer Marseille if all things were equal.

[Teasy]

How do other clubs manage these wage increase demands I'm always reading about?

 

Depends on the club I suppose.  Some have higher revenue, some have lower wage bills prior to increased wages and some are simply willing to spend a higher percentage of their revenue on wages.

 

For reference we spend 69% of our revenue on wages, a total of £64.1m, up 20% from the previous year (or did as of the last published accounts).  Of course that should drop significantly soon with the new TV deal and Wonga contract.

[Dave]

I would imagine they just employ people who negotiate contracts effectively.

[TRon]

One of the excuses given in the Pardew statement was that we are only looking to sign players who will improve the squad. Of course that comes with a caveat that the players that will improve the squad will come with bigger wage demands. That's the real reason that this deal fell through ultimately. We just weren't prepared to meet his demands. Which is fine, if that's the line we are going to take, I just don't see how we are going to be able to sign a better quality player if we are not going to pay the going rate.

[Mick]

One of the excuses given in the Pardew statement was that we are only looking to sign players who will improve the squad. Of course that comes with a caveat that the players that will improve the squad will come with bigger wage demands. That's the real reason that this deal fell through ultimately. We just weren't prepared to meet his demands. Which is fine, if that's the line we are going to take, I just don't see how we are going to be able to sign a better quality player if we are not going to pay the going rate.

 

He said we did agree and then we went back on an agreement.  I look forward to the club denial if that's not the case.

[Interpolic]

One of the excuses given in the Pardew statement was that we are only looking to sign players who will improve the squad. Of course that comes with a caveat that the players that will improve the squad will come with bigger wage demands. That's the real reason that this deal fell through ultimately. We just weren't prepared to meet his demands. Which is fine, if that's the line we are going to take, I just don't see how we are going to be able to sign a better quality player if we are not going to pay the going rate.

 

He said we did agree and then we went back on an agreement.  I look forward to the club denial if that's not the case.

 

I couldn't really care less whether the club comment or not tbh, half of what they say is spin and the other half is unmitigated bullshit.

[TRon]

One of the excuses given in the Pardew statement was that we are only looking to sign players who will improve the squad. Of course that comes with a caveat that the players that will improve the squad will come with bigger wage demands. That's the real reason that this deal fell through ultimately. We just weren't prepared to meet his demands. Which is fine, if that's the line we are going to take, I just don't see how we are going to be able to sign a better quality player if we are not going to pay the going rate.

 

He said we did agree and then we went back on an agreement.  I look forward to the club denial if that's not the case.

 

That could easily mean we agreed his wages but not his agent/s commission on top. I can't see the club issuing a denial either, for the same reason.

[Mick]

One of the excuses given in the Pardew statement was that we are only looking to sign players who will improve the squad. Of course that comes with a caveat that the players that will improve the squad will come with bigger wage demands. That's the real reason that this deal fell through ultimately. We just weren't prepared to meet his demands. Which is fine, if that's the line we are going to take, I just don't see how we are going to be able to sign a better quality player if we are not going to pay the going rate.

 

He said we did agree and then we went back on an agreement.  I look forward to the club denial if that's not the case.

 

That could easily mean we agreed his wages but not his agent/s commission on top. I can't see the club issuing a denial either, for the same reason.

 

How could it possibly mean what you're saying?  How could agreeing to something then going back on it cover what you're trying to make out?  The quote again 'Lyon and Newcastle agreed a fee of €8m plus €2m bonuses but then Newcastle went back on my agreement w/ them.'

[TRon]

One of the excuses given in the Pardew statement was that we are only looking to sign players who will improve the squad. Of course that comes with a caveat that the players that will improve the squad will come with bigger wage demands. That's the real reason that this deal fell through ultimately. We just weren't prepared to meet his demands. Which is fine, if that's the line we are going to take, I just don't see how we are going to be able to sign a better quality player if we are not going to pay the going rate.

 

He said we did agree and then we went back on an agreement.  I look forward to the club denial if that's not the case.

 

That could easily mean we agreed his wages but not his agent/s commission on top. I can't see the club issuing a denial either, for the same reason.

 

How could it possibly mean what you're saying?  How could agreeing to something then going back on it cover what you're trying to make out?  The quote again 'Lyon and Newcastle agreed a fee of €8m plus €2m bonuses but then Newcastle went back on my agreement w/ them.'

 

It depends on whether you take his words literally as gospel I suppose. I don't because I've had a suspicion that his preferred move was to Marseilles anyway, but he might have come here if we dangled a big enough carrot, which we clearly didn't.

[Mick]

 

 

It depends on whether you take his words literally as gospel I suppose. I don't because I've had a suspicion that his preferred move was to Marseilles anyway, but he might have come here if we dangled a big enough carrot, which we clearly didn't.

 

His words are fairly emphatic from what I can see.

[Teasy]

I would imagine they just employ people who negotiate contracts effectively.

 

Yeah I'm sure plenty of clubs have better negotiators.  Don't think any negotiator is going to get a Footballer to drop his wage demands significantly if he's just not that bothered about signing for the club though.

[jdckelly]

 

 

It depends on whether you take his words literally as gospel I suppose. I don't because I've had a suspicion that his preferred move was to Marseilles anyway, but he might have come here if we dangled a big enough carrot, which we clearly didn't.

 

His words are fairly emphatic from what I can see.

tend to agree with Tron here and as to his words, everyone in football lies to serve their own purpose, to say otherwise is naive.

[Mick]

 

tend to agree with Tron here and as to his words, everyone in football lies to serve their own purpose, to say otherwise is naive.

 

[Disco]

Well he'll be getting sued if so given the club have previos on that front.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Don't see any reason to believe he prefers Marseilles, except pessimism. Not that I know more than anyone else obviously.

[mosstef]

Don't see any reason to believe he prefers Marseilles, except pessimism. Not that I know more than anyone else obviously.

 

He kept liking NUFC-related pictures on Instagram during the entire window, so I think we were his preferred destination.

[Guest Yanga]

Positive that Deschamps is recommending us. Incredibly amateur to agree deals and then expect a player to lower his demands.

 

Surprising behaviour from this football club? Nope.

[TRon]

Don't see any reason to believe he prefers Marseilles, except pessimism. Not that I know more than anyone else obviously.

 

I thought there were reports from France that his preferred choice was Marseilles but they had asked him to be patient and wait until his contract had run down and then they would be able to bring him in at a lower fee and meet his demands. He's stayed at Lyon so that makes me more pessimistic definitely.