madras Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=102238&st=0&sk=t&sd=a they aren't confident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 What does the fact they keep changing their strikers tell you?....................... that they are in poor form. Cole scored when he came on last weekend so i'd guess that he will partner Sears (who was one of their better players by all accounts). Either way, if Ashton doesn't start all the better for us, as he is their best striker (even if he is playing poorly). I don't find the prospect of defending against Cole, Sears, Ashton and Zamora that worrying. Especially, considering we've conceeded only two up against strikers such as Bent, Keane, Berbatov, Doyle, Defoe and Jones, who i'd consider better players. As for their defence, not many have managed to keep a clean sheet against our attack so i'd certainly expect us to score. But for me the biggest question mark is whether the midfield can be a touch more fluid against West Ham, than they have in the last few games. If they go out and dominate, we will win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I think I've only seen one West Ham match all season. Are they never on TV? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 They were poor against us earlier in the season, Zoggy had a great game as an attacking fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 They were poor against us earlier in the season, Zoggy had a great game as an attacking fullback. he did in the second half and we even had a spell in that game where we tried to pass and use vidukas touch instead of lumping it on to his head 40yds out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 They were poor against us earlier in the season, Zoggy had a great game as an attacking fullback. he did in the second half and we even had a spell in that game where we tried to pass and use vidukas touch instead of lumping it on to his head 40yds out. He set up both of Viduka's goals in the first half iirc. Second half he played further up the pitch, we brought Martins on and kept hitting them on the counter attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 They were poor against us earlier in the season, Zoggy had a great game as an attacking fullback. he did in the second half and we even had a spell in that game where we tried to pass and use vidukas touch instead of lumping it on to his head 40yds out. He set up both of Viduka's goals in the first half iirc. Second half he played further up the pitch, we brought Martins on and kept hitting them on the counter attack. played better in the second half for me....thats probably when i thought "if we play him...play him in midfield" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I think I've only seen one West Ham match all season. Are they never on TV? Know what you mean, i'd struggle to name who plays starting XI for them over recent games. Get very little media coverage although they have been the architypal midtable team for this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kenton Magpie Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I'd settle for a point, both teams have very little to play for other than pride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Expect Parker to have a great game tbh. I wonder what sort of reception he'll get from our lot. I guess he will be booed with every contact he will have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I'd settle for a point, both teams have very little to play for other than pride WHU have no pride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=51476.0 I'm surprised you were that positive since you thought we should have stuck with Allardyce instead of taking a risk bringing Keegan back. ...and you still maintain Owen isn't a good finisher. I said he's not a World class finisher which he isn't. Perhaps that's the difference between going to games and seeing some of the chances he misses compared to watching highlights over the Internet. Most modern strikers miss alot of chances. Name a better goal poacher. Try digging the original thread up and you might have a clue what we're on about rather than jumping in without a clue. I know what you're talking about mate. My point about Owen remains. He said Owen wasn't a world class finisher. He clearly is, just not his all round game nowadays. Being a World class poacher doesn't make you a World class finisher. True, but he is a world class finisher in my eyes. It depends what you classify as a World Class Finisher. I would say it means you have converted a high percentage of your chances at international level against quality opposition and have a good games to goals ratio something like 1 goal every 2 games. Both of which Owen has done. Define what makes a world class finisher. http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=51424.msg1263711#msg1263711 Interesting Slant. Who would you consider a world class finisher in your eyes in the world today? As has been said in that thread there isn't many now, Eto'o, Henry, RVN are the 3 stand out. As I said I'd trust Viduka in a one on one situation more than I would Owen, Owen's strength is using his footballing brain to get into the positions where he'll get more chances to finish than Viduka. Owen has a higher goals to shots ratio this season than Eto'o. Therefore, by your reasoning is a better finsiher. Owen Shots:28 Goals:10 Eto'o Shots:58 Goals:15 http://www.squadgod.com/players/MichaelOwen http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=11718 The difference being Eto'o is a player who shoots from anywhere within 30 yards of goal where as Owen doesn't, I'm talking about what I'd consider to be goalscoring opportunities. So basically what your saying is a world class finisher is someone in say the top 10 of the world, within 10 yards of the Goal one on one with a keeper of equal ability with an equal unchanging global weather system, uniform pitches, equal levels of fitnessetc...... Basically what I'm saying is you can't decide what a world class finisher is by your theory. Every thing has to be exactly the same. I'll stick by saying if you stick it in the back of the net more than most then you're a world class finisher. EDIT: I think we should end this debate, it's pointless and must be well annoying for others. Baggy handed his arse on a plate dontcha know. [Onlyjokingbaggy/] FWIW you do talk a lot of sense about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Same team. 1-2 win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 High scoring game methinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Wonder what price you can get on Owen, Viduka and Martins all scoring.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It'll be an interesting game. West Ham have been off the boil for a few months now and even though they didn't suffer a what's-left-of-morale destroying defeat or draw at Derby the performance was far from convincing. On the other hand our performance against the Mackem's wasn't fantastic either. I'd like to see us up our game again this weekend and give them a pasting. My heart says we'll win, my head says a draw or a lucky win to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 2-1 win I reckon. They are fairly shit, with a miserable twat manager, plus I'm counting on us winning so I can dredge up Martin Samuel Anti-Keegan articles to gloat over (he's a WH fan). (and a fat cunt) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Reckon we might see a start for Duff 2-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 2-1 win I reckon. They are fairly shit, with a miserable twat manager, plus I'm counting on us winning so I can dredge up Martin Samuel Anti-Keegan articles to gloat over (he's a WH fan). (and a fat cunt) haha, i was JUST about to post '5 pages in and no-one's mentioned the most satisfying reason for us winning this game will be KNOWING that prick is gutted we've beaten them' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 West Ham are cack tbh, 2-0 to the Toon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Freshen the team up, Milner starting for Geremi, Emre coming on for JB after 70 with Geremi back in for Milner 1-4 toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I wouldnt be suprised to see Duff start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Think we'll win 3-0. Just has one of those feelings. Probably go 2-0 up early on and then West Ham will commit more to getting back into the game and we'll hurt them on the break late in the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparta Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 would be about time for barton to score... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I wouldnt be suprised to see Duff start Yeah you said. He won't though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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