Cronky Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I can't see Russia as likely overall winners. Spain, Italy or Germany would be able to exploit their weak defending. (Cue for everyone to put their money on Russia) The big question for me from last night was why were Holland so bad. Mentally, they didn't look up for it at all and their manager looked like a rabbit caught in headlights. It's not going to be aired much, but you have to wonder about the decision to play Boulharouz so soon after the death of his child. A tragedy like that can affect the whole team, not just the player. For long periods, Holland looked like their minds weren't fully on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I can't see Russia as likely overall winners. Spain, Italy or Germany would be able to exploit their weak defending. (Cue for everyone to put their money on Russia) The big question for me from last night was why were Holland so bad. Mentally, they didn't look up for it at all and their manager looked like a rabbit caught in headlights. It's not going to be aired much, but you have to wonder about the decision to play Boulharouz so soon after the death of his child. A tragedy like that can affect the whole team, not just the player. For long periods, Holland looked like their minds weren't fully on it. Just typical Holland I thought, In my lifetime they have always been the same, promised so much and delivered so little. I guess it was a bit different this year because they had less superstars and more of a team but maybe the hype caught up with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 on the red card retraction, it shouldnt have been a red card to begin with, but the only reason the ref didnt give it was because the ball went out, when it didnt. so the challenge wasnt a red, but the reason he didnt give the red was bullshit. crazy reffereeing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 on the red card retraction, it shouldnt have been a red card to begin with, but the only reason the ref didnt give it was because the ball went out, when it didnt. so the challenge wasnt a red, but the reason he didnt give the red was bullshit. crazy reffereeing. Was that the easiest way of explaining it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Germany Italy final I reckon. On another point, should they do away with extra time? We've had 2 extremes in 2 games - one good example of going for the win (Russia) and 2 teams playing for penalties - dunno what Holland were playing at! However, off the top of my head there were 3 bookings leading to suspensions, one injury to a key player and 2 overly tired teams in the semis. Potentially leading to less exciting games. 90 mins, then pens BUT..... each player on the pitch has to take one. For a tournament this size with games so close together that's probably a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Think the Italians will take this one. At least one penalty in this match, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 It's getting to the point I'll have to start supporting Spain to avoid a totally negative final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Desailly! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Marcel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 http://www.corrieredellosport.it/images/59/C_3_Media_61959_immagine_det.jpg Always been a huge fan of this lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Jarvy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Why does the idiot Motson insist on calling Ramos, "Raamos"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Jarvy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Fuck is that idiot Motson shouting for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 The man is a senile fool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Italy to win today and go on to win the tournament, nailed on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I thought John Toshack was the Wales manager? Seems to be moonlighting as a referee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Why does the idiot Motson insist on calling Ramos, "Raamos"? Has corrected himself now and started to call him Ramos and then ruined things by mentioning "Perlo". Anyway back to the game, Spain seeing more of the ball but unable to do anything as Italy have everyone back. Come on Spain! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Already you can say that this is a game which badly needs a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 I'm sure Toni won't like Motson revealing the state of his sex life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Fairly disappointing match so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Fairly disappointing match so far. Not really, sort of game I expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbonegro Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 the referee has been the most entertaining thing so far in the match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Fairly disappointing match so far. Not really, sort of game I expected. Erm, didn't say I was expecting fireworks either from these two just yet, just from a neutral perspective it's not been that exciting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 the referee has been the most entertaining thing so far in the match The whole tournament has been based around not giving decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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