LooneyToonArmy Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Thats just a FM wonderkid list Official Olympics website http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/headlines/football/n214423485.shtml Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Thats just a FM wonderkid list Official Olympics website http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/headlines/football/n214423485.shtml No, no, I believe you, it's just almost identical to the many argy youngsters Fm lists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Anyone want to run a sweepstake about how many games he'll get and how many goals he'll score before being carted off to the special room at SJP where they kept Marcelino, Luque and all other similar Spanish/South American failures? Maetihs?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 good stats on fm. that mrino lke of hercules has good stats as well though. chamakh has very good stats translation please for us hard of spakka talk ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 According to the Times he`s only on 35k week which is quite low compared to many players I can think of. Obviously the Times might be pulling these numbers from thin air (most likely) but if it`s true it seems we might have a very good deal overall and would fit into the policy of not paying over the top wages http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4258468.ece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diddimz Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Never saw this coming. I know nothing of him, so can't comment if he is a good signing or not, I'm impressed however at how the club dealt with this, no leaks anywhere until after it was announced, well done to all involved, hopefully shuts up the doom mongerers for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 According to the Times he`s only on 35k week which is quite low compared to many players I can think of. Obviously the Times might be pulling these numbers from thin air (most likely) but if it`s true it seems we might have a very good deal overall and would fit into the policy of not paying over the top wages http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4258468.ece Yesterday they didn't even know he was coming, now all of a sudden they know the in's and out's of his payslip. Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 He looks a hell of a player,check the Argentinian ones on his website mentioned earlier in the thread. You know that the only bits of him in the Argy video are the cross, him giving away a free kick, and him kissing the goalscorer? All the good bits were other players and he wasn't involved at all in those particular sequences. That cross was quality though-Owen will thrive on service like that,as it seems Guiza did last season. Said that same thing when I saw him whip the cross in. It'll be nice to have a pacy winger looking to make the pass. Instead of a s*** winger,Duff,looking to take the piss.(Out of us) i like his two-footedness (from the small clips i saw) but i'm scared by the idea of a winger just whipping balls in. it's why gillespie got found out easier than ginola I think any winger,worth his salt,would expect a decent striker to be near post in that situation Mads.Time and again we've seen Owen and Shearer,over the years, profit from darting near post runs. owen does it all the time but too often we dont have someone following in (the perfact example was manutd with beckham wide, not even looking up but knowing he'd have sheringham/cole splitting front post/in behind). i just don't like the idea of just trying to hit the byline and hit someones head all the time. it seems to many on here think the ferdiand-ginola-gillespie axis would work aswell today. I agree with you. Premiership football has changed. It's not enough to rely on a specialist winger supplying crosses. You need to be able to improvise more, and have a variety of ways of opening up a defence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 According to the Times he`s only on 35k week which is quite low compared to many players I can think of. Obviously the Times might be pulling these numbers from thin air (most likely) but if it`s true it seems we might have a very good deal overall and would fit into the policy of not paying over the top wages http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4258468.ece Yesterday they didn't even know he was coming, now all of a sudden they know the in's and out's of his payslip. Amazing. And have they not got his old club wrong, he's Valez Sarfield (sp?) not Newell Old Boys. Just goes to show that the journalists don't even check the most rudimentary of facts (i've not checked here so am fully prepared to be shot down if i've got this wrong!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 According to the Times he`s only on 35k week which is quite low compared to many players I can think of. Obviously the Times might be pulling these numbers from thin air (most likely) but if it`s true it seems we might have a very good deal overall and would fit into the policy of not paying over the top wages http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4258468.ece Yesterday they didn't even know he was coming, now all of a sudden they know the in's and out's of his payslip. Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geordienorway Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 United's new winger won’t be another Luque Jul 3 2008 by Luke Edwards, The Journal NEWCASTLE United fans have been reassured the signing of winger Jonas Gutierrez from Real Mallorca represents a major coup as Spanish football expert Gerry Armstrong dismissed comparisons with Magpies misfit Albert Luque. The former Tottenham Hotspur and Real Mallorca midfielder, who is a commentator on Spanish football for Sky Sports, is adamant United have pulled off a remarkable signing in Gutierrez, who he believes was the best winger in La Liga last season. Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp had spent the last eight months trying to persuade the 24-year-old to move to Fratton Park and Armstrong insisted Newcastle had beaten several other Spanish and English clubs to land a player he feels is perfectly suited to the English game. United have not had much luck when it comes to signing players from La Liga, with £9m flop Albert Luque the last player to swap the Spanish sun for Tyneside three years ago, while injury-prone centre-back Marcelino was the last player the Magpies signed from Real Mallorca back in 1999. Armstrong, though, is adamant Gutierrez – who is believed to have bought out the last two years of his contract at Mallorca to facilitate a move to England – will prove to be a far more successful acquisition and wholeheartedly praised the winger’s work rate, as well as his creativity. “It really is a major coup for Newcastle United and Kevin Keegan will be absolutely thrilled to get him because a lot of clubs were after him from La Liga and the Premier League,” said Armstrong, who spent two years with Mallorca and is still based on the island. “I know for certain that Harry Redknapp will be absolutely gutted Jonas has gone to Newcastle because he has spent the last seven or eight months trying to get him to sign for Portsmouth. A lot of clubs have been watching him, but Newcastle have pulled it off. “Jonas is a great signing for Newcastle and the fans should be thrilled that he will be at St James’s Park next season. It is a real statement of ambition in the transfer market and it will help the club look forward after the troubles it has had recently.” United manager Keegan has been desperate to add some creativity to his midfield after identifying this as the major weakness in the side last season and Gutierrez, who has signed a five-year deal, is tipped to provide a productive supply line for Michael Owen and the rest of the Newcastle strikeforce. Armstrong said: “For me, he was one of the best players in La Liga last season and the biggest single reason why Real Mallorca had such a good year. Danny Guiza was the top goalscorer in Spanish football last season and he got his ammunition from Gutierrez, he created the goals for him. I’m sure Michael Owen will be looking forward to playing with him. “I don’t think Kevin could have signed a better player for Newcastle from La Liga because he has all the attributes needed to be a success in the Premier League and I’m really interested to see how he does. “He is tall for a winger, and he’s quick and strong. He has wonderful energy levels and will work really hard for the team. He also knows how to defend and he’s not scared to tuck in when he has to. He is a great team player because that is something all the Real Mallorca players had to be.” Like all foreign players, Gutierrez may take some time to settle in the North East, but for the first time since Laurent Robert, Newcastle appear to have a genuinely exciting winger on their books. Gutierrez – who is famous for wearing a Spiderman mask when he celebrates scoring – will not link up with the rest of the Newcastle squad for at least another fortnight as he was involved in Argentina’s summer internationals. But, when he does, Armstrong expects him to become a big hit with fans and team-mates alike because of his approach to the game. He added: “I know Newcastle have not had the best track record when it comes to signing players from Spain, but Gutierrez is Argentinean and he has a different style of play. He’s certainly not another Albert Luque. Argentinians generally have a good history in English football, going back to Ossie Ardiles and Ricky Villa at Tottenham, and I’m confident Gutierrez will be a success at Newcastle. “Obviously, it is always difficult moving to a different country, with a different language and it will take some adjustment which can take time, but I really do think he will adapt to English football because of the type of player he is. Newcastle have obviously done their homework.” Gutierrez’s arrival would appear to have ended Newcastle’s interest in Tottenham and England winger Aaron Lennon, while there will also be new question marks surrounding the future of James Milner. Meanwhile, Everton are expected to name Steve Round as their new assistant manager this morning. Round will leave Newcastle after one season on their coaching staff to link up with the Goodison Park club after negotiations between the clubs last night are believed to have thrashed out a compensation deal to allow Round to leave the North East. Magpies' new man JONAS Gutierrez began his career with Club Atlético Vélez Sársfield in Argentina, making his debut when he was just 18. After helping Sársfield to the league title in 2005 he moved to Real Mallorca, where he made 96 appearances, scoring five goals. Speaking about his estimated £7m move to Newcastle the winger said: “I cannot tell you how excited I am to be joining Newcastle United. The Premier League is a great place to play and I cannot wait to meet my new team-mates and prove myself to the Newcastle United fans.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Haha, fuck off Harry. Sounds good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 i'd take those words with a pinch of salt, after all Michael Robinson said Luque would 'put his hand in the fire'. mind you, he was probably just saying Luque would do anything to get injured so he could avoid playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TPIB Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Stand aside Mirandhina His name is Jonas Guiterez He's hails from Argentina Not from Brazil But he's fucking Brill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 rumour has it he's only signed for us to be closer to his beloved spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Haha, f*** off Harry. Sounds good. Just what I was thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guinness Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Positive stuff from Gerry Armstrong, he usually knows his stuff when it comes to Spanish football so hopefully he's spot on. Harry must be gutted if he's been tracking him for that long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Positive stuff from Gerry Armstrong, he usually knows his stuff when it comes to Spanish football Can anyone remember what did Gerry Armstrong say about the other Spanish signings...Luque + Marcellino (ouch) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 i think he said some good stuff about luque. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Haha, f*** off Harry. Sounds good. Just what I was thinking To quote KK "I love it" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Positive stuff from Gerry Armstrong, he usually knows his stuff when it comes to Spanish football so hopefully he's spot on. Harry must be gutted if he's been tracking him for that long Yeah, Gerry Armstrong has always sounded like he knew his La Liga. The dude who said good stuff about Luque was Souness' mate, not Armstrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Haha, f*** off Harry. Sounds good. Just what I was thinking To quote KK "I love it" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Sporting director Nando Pons said: "We are asking for 15million euros for the unilateral termination of the contract without just cause. "It's a legal matter. We are not happy about it in the slightest, but Mallorca has to protect its interests." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 hopefully fat fred will take over soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 hopefully fat fred will take over soon. how would that help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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