Skirge Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 If we had started with the 11 we finished with we may have won it, of course you need a ref thats knows what he is doing, an absolute disgrace of an official.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gggg Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 And people have the cheek to praise our transfer policy. So many average players on the pitch Butt, Ameobi, Geremi, Edgar, Taylor N'zogbia at left back Xisco finally managed to get his boots on the right feet for the tap in The fact that we'll miss Danny fucking Guthrie while he's out says it all. For fuck sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Looked to me as though he tried to kick the ball the player moved it and Guthrie caught him, no intent at all.. Also the softest pen award I have ever seen, Hull are Bolton in disguise.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 And people have the cheek to praise our transfer policy. So many average players on the pitch Butt, Ameobi, Geremi, Edgar, Taylor N'zogbia at left back Xisco finally managed to get his boots on the right feet for the tap in The fact that we'll miss Danny fucking Guthrie while he's out says it all. For fuck sake. Guthrie is a good player. Ameobi starting is just wrong. we need a right winger and we need a right back. but we've had a better transfer window than a lot of clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 This match has pretty much settles the internal debate for me. Keegan vs. the Ashley setup. There's not a single one of the purchases this summer that look to be bad signings. We haven't broken the bank and we've improved the squad no end. It still may be early to be judging those players but the quality of those brought in seems to be high right from the off. The recruitment system works. Now we just need a manager happy to work within it. If there are no 'big' names willing then do an Arsenal and sign a relatively unknown, promising, young manager/coach. Keegan isn't necessarily in the wrong or the bad guy, but he wants changes that the owner isn't willing to make - and I agree with Ashley in this instance. The recruitment/development setup needs to stay and be built upon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Away Toon Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 God there are a lot of idiots on this board which is why I don't bother posting. Which idiot said that it wasn't a penalty? Hull were the better team, scored three good goals and deserved to win. If KK had still been manager would we have lost? No it would have been three points and we'd be sitting in the top six or so instead of down with the mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaypee Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Fuck Derek Llambias. Sitting there and smirking at the protests. Shows how absolutely fucking clueless he is. Did anyone else notice on the pictures that the row a bit behind him was "KK"? Ironic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 FFS the bloke on SSN had no one behind him, within seconds there must have been about 20 people just standing there. What is wrong with these people wanting to just stand because they want on the telly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 ashley and wise we're at st james park, from someone who works there they we're ordered home and had their mobile phones taken away so they couldn't contact ppl to tell them about were probably thinking that we'll win this one easily and their going to appear 5 mins before the end with the team winning 4-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 And people have the cheek to praise our transfer policy. So many average players on the pitch Butt, Ameobi, Geremi, Edgar, Taylor N'zogbia at left back Xisco finally managed to get his boots on the right feet for the tap in The fact that we'll miss Danny f***ing Guthrie while he's out says it all. For f*** sake. Guthrie is a good player. Ameobi starting is just wrong. we need a right winger and we need a right back. but we've had a better transfer window than a lot of clubs. That isn't saying much given the state of the squad. We needed an exceptional transfer window and we got one good player, one pretty good player and some unknowns. Fail. Just woke up with a splitting fucking headache. Glad I missed this one. Hull FFS. Doesn't get much worse than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 ashley and wise we're at st james park, from someone who works there they we're ordered home and had their mobile phones taken away so they couldn't contact ppl to tell them about were probably thinking that we'll win this one easily and their going to appear 5 mins before the end with the team winning 4-0 The English across those 2 posts makes me want to vomit. Who was ordered home neesy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest newcastle4life Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Awful result just rubs it in after all that has happened, no excuse for not getting 3 points against teams like Hull especially at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniatmoko Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 This match has pretty much settles the internal debate for me. Keegan vs. the Ashley setup. There's not a single one of the purchases this summer that look to be bad signings. We haven't broken the bank and we've improved the squad no end. It still may be early to be judging those players but the quality of those brought in seems to be high right from the off. The recruitment system works. Now we just need a manager happy to work within it. If there are no 'big' names willing then do an Arsenal and sign a relatively unknown, promising, young manager/coach. Keegan isn't necessarily in the wrong or the bad guy, but he wants changes that the owner isn't willing to make - and I agree with Ashley in this instance. The recruitment/development setup needs to stay and be built upon. agree with ashley? so agree with wise.. why he didn't make wise as manager at first place? if he know what kind of people wise is.... it wouldn't be conflict of interest... director of football does can work if he can "coorporate" with the manager. keegan always have big ego and always is... u cant change that personality... but i tend to agree that manager has bigger authority that director of football on term of football technicality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 And people have the cheek to praise our transfer policy. So many average players on the pitch Butt, Ameobi, Geremi, Edgar, Taylor N'zogbia at left back Xisco finally managed to get his boots on the right feet for the tap in The fact that we'll miss Danny f***ing Guthrie while he's out says it all. For f*** sake. Guthrie is a good player. Ameobi starting is just wrong. we need a right winger and we need a right back. but we've had a better transfer window than a lot of clubs. That isn't saying much given the state of the squad. We needed an exceptional transfer window and we got one good player, one pretty good player and some unknowns. Fail. Just woke up with a splitting fucking headache. Glad I missed this one. Hull FFS. Doesn't get much worse than that. well no, we didn't, we got 2 very good players, 2 good players and 2 unkowns, one of which scored today and the other looked pretty sharp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 This match has pretty much settles the internal debate for me. Keegan vs. the Ashley setup. There's not a single one of the purchases this summer that look to be bad signings. We haven't broken the bank and we've improved the squad no end. It still may be early to be judging those players but the quality of those brought in seems to be high right from the off. The recruitment system works. Now we just need a manager happy to work within it. If there are no 'big' names willing then do an Arsenal and sign a relatively unknown, promising, young manager/coach. Keegan isn't necessarily in the wrong or the bad guy, but he wants changes that the owner isn't willing to make - and I agree with Ashley in this instance. The recruitment/development setup needs to stay and be built upon. Sorry to break this to you, but Newcastle lost today, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulivye Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 zog should not play LB xisco-bittersweet he scores but he gave the ball away very cheaply, catching all of ours on the back foot, which led to the penalty ameobi once upon a time there was a thin argument that could be made for him. now, well, thanks shola for your brace vs the mackems & staring down dennis wise on your debut. it's a shame you didn't leave w/ those 2 feathers in your cap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Ugh. Could see it coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LucaAltieri Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 This match has pretty much settles the internal debate for me. Keegan vs. the Ashley setup. There's not a single one of the purchases this summer that look to be bad signings. We haven't broken the bank and we've improved the squad no end. It still may be early to be judging those players but the quality of those brought in seems to be high right from the off. The recruitment system works. Now we just need a manager happy to work within it. If there are no 'big' names willing then do an Arsenal and sign a relatively unknown, promising, young manager/coach. Keegan isn't necessarily in the wrong or the bad guy, but he wants changes that the owner isn't willing to make - and I agree with Ashley in this instance. The recruitment/development setup needs to stay and be built upon. Sorry to break this to you, but Newcastle lost today, man. Yeah, due to lack of spine and poor performances from the old lot. Which of the new signings were crap today? Which of the new signings have shown signs of being crap since they arrived? The recruitment is fine. Now we just need to give them a gaffer to bring it all together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridman Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 1825: "I didn't know what was going to come out of their changing room but I was pleased with what I saw." Hull boss Phil Brown after the 2-1 win over Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 This match has pretty much settles the internal debate for me. Keegan vs. the Ashley setup. There's not a single one of the purchases this summer that look to be bad signings. We haven't broken the bank and we've improved the squad no end. It still may be early to be judging those players but the quality of those brought in seems to be high right from the off. The recruitment system works. Now we just need a manager happy to work within it. If there are no 'big' names willing then do an Arsenal and sign a relatively unknown, promising, young manager/coach. Keegan isn't necessarily in the wrong or the bad guy, but he wants changes that the owner isn't willing to make - and I agree with Ashley in this instance. The recruitment/development setup needs to stay and be built upon. Sorry to break this to you, but Newcastle lost today, man. Vs Hull FFS And only 1 player of the new so called outstanding transfer poilcy was missing today and we couldn't beat Hull? How is that a success? Finding it hard to believe people are still backing Ashley after this shambles that we've witnessed over the last two weeks. Should be fucking ashamed of yourselves backing a bunch of cockney twats over a man that bleeds black and white. Tossers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 This match has pretty much settles the internal debate for me. Keegan vs. the Ashley setup. There's not a single one of the purchases this summer that look to be bad signings. We haven't broken the bank and we've improved the squad no end. It still may be early to be judging those players but the quality of those brought in seems to be high right from the off. The recruitment system works. Now we just need a manager happy to work within it. If there are no 'big' names willing then do an Arsenal and sign a relatively unknown, promising, young manager/coach. Keegan isn't necessarily in the wrong or the bad guy, but he wants changes that the owner isn't willing to make - and I agree with Ashley in this instance. The recruitment/development setup needs to stay and be built upon. Sorry to break this to you, but Newcastle lost today, man. Yeah, due to lack of spine and poor performances from the old lot. Which of the new signings were crap today? Which of the new signings have shown signs of being crap since they arrived? The recruitment is fine. Now we just need to give them a gaffer to bring it all together. the fact you think this is a choice between the players we've signed and keegan is alarming. when did this false dichotomy arise? from what i remember keegan was fine with bassong, coloccini, guthrie and Jonas, he 'green lighted' their signings in the same way he didn't sanction moves for Gomis or Zayatte. the problem is when the likes of wise and llambias started doing transfer deals without keegan's say so. had they left and keegan stayed, we'd still have kept Vetere the bloke who is actually going out and finding players. For me, Xisco looks very strong and brave, and battles for everything. his first touch is very rusty, he's not particularly fast, his movement is ok, isnt the sort to beat players, has a bit of an eye for goal. promising but a long way to go for him. Nacho looked decent when he came on, didnt do enough to make me think he's any better than (or even equal to) Emre, but the fact he tried to make adventurous passes is a plus with a lack of bodies and lack of quality endemic to our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CaPiTaL cHaP Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 What stood out most for me today was the total lack of athleticism in our midfield. No real power of pace from Butt, Geremi and Guthrie. Even if we have Guti back we have no real presence in the middle. Barton had some at Man City but i didn't see much from him last season and i don't expect much this season tbh. The other thing that was painful to watch was Edgar at RB and Zog at LB. Both easy targets for counter attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 This match has pretty much settles the internal debate for me. Keegan vs. the Ashley setup. There's not a single one of the purchases this summer that look to be bad signings. We haven't broken the bank and we've improved the squad no end. It still may be early to be judging those players but the quality of those brought in seems to be high right from the off. The recruitment system works. Now we just need a manager happy to work within it. If there are no 'big' names willing then do an Arsenal and sign a relatively unknown, promising, young manager/coach. Keegan isn't necessarily in the wrong or the bad guy, but he wants changes that the owner isn't willing to make - and I agree with Ashley in this instance. The recruitment/development setup needs to stay and be built upon. Sorry to break this to you, but Newcastle lost today, man. Yeah, due to lack of spine and poor performances from the old lot. Which of the new signings were crap today? Which of the new signings have shown signs of being crap since they arrived? The recruitment is fine. Now we just need to give them a gaffer to bring it all together. the fact you think this is a choice between the players we've signed and keegan is alarming. when did this false dichotomy arise? from what i remember keegan was fine with bassong, coloccini, guthrie and Jonas, he 'green lighted' their signings in the same way he didn't sanction moves for Gomis or Zayatte. the problem is when the likes of wise and llambias started doing transfer deals without keegan's say so. had they left and keegan stayed, we'd still have kept Vetere the bloke who is actually going out and finding players. For me, Xisco looks very strong and brave, and battles for everything. his first touch is very rusty, he's not particularly fast, his movement is ok, isnt the sort to beat players, has a bit of an eye for goal. promising but a long way to go for him. Nacho looked decent when he came on, didnt do enough to make me think he's any better than (or even equal to) Emre, but the fact he tried to make adventurous passes is a plus with a lack of bodies and lack of quality endemic to our squad. Agree 100% with Jonnypd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Mongo Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Yeah, due to lack of spine and poor performances from the old lot. It's a team game, and although the new signings are OK, they have only barely improved the first team. An injury to either Coloccini or Jonas, and we're worse off than we would be last year with an injury to Faye or Milner. Which of the new signings were crap today? The left back we didn't sign. Which of the new signings have shown signs of being crap since they arrived? The replacement for Milner. The recruitment is fine. Now we just need to give them a gaffer to bring it all together. Wouldn't it be better if the man bringing it all together had some say in what he was supposed to bring together, instead of just buying a bunch of "brilliant" discount players and hope they all would gel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 We played better against Derby at home last year than we did today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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