STM Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Completely disagree with HTT. Whenever i've seen him play, he's won the majority of his aerial battles and consistantly tracked back and broke down opposition attacks. He's also very confident on the ball. However, there have been "moments" not titus esq but in the last two games he has been at fault for two goals. When the team is playing as bad as it has been recently it's not suprising to see these incidents, when the side is in full flow and performing to it's potential you will see marked improvements from individuals. As i say every year. We need consistancy in our defence and throughout for that matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 thought he was good today tbh, a bit rash sometimes and i would like to see him win more in the air, but he is very good at one on one's and i think there will be a lot more to come from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Shit start, understandable since Keegan's fuked us over. Aye Keegan fucked us over like. Knew you'd come round Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Colocinni is mint, a class act. I have no quams in saying that whatsoever. When stability is restored to the club and we get real confindence going he will prove that. I have full confidence in his abilities. The naysayers are wrong. Same. Just to reiterate, it's a bit unfair to judge any player too much at the moment. In my opinion. Agreed. Of all the players in the side Coloccini would be last on the list to critisise along with Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elbee909 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 It'll just be a Vidic-style first season. Bit inconsistent but generally ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Aye cos Faye has been amazing for stoke! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I feel kind of bad making a post about him because he is new and this isn't a great time for any of them but he does worry me and today in the first half he just didn't convince me at all. People are right in saying he needs a certain type of defender around him as does the team in general and it is early days. I just don't think he is or ever will be our defensive kingpin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I'll settle for him being a lynchpin then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Aye cos Faye has been amazing for stoke! He was MOM at Anfield the other week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Shit start, understandable since Keegan's fuked us over. Aye Keegan fucked us over like. No, Keegan did exactly what was best for the club (if that helps you sleep at night) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Hasn't looked great in the air, and the commentators were quick to pick up on it when we played very poorly until the Everton goal. I thought it was telling that by the end of the match both Tyler and Gray had been won round and were praising Coloccini's part in stifling the Everton forwards. I think it's a bit more fair assessment than some of our fans who are trying to put him down in order to big up their own favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Aye cos Faye has been amazing for stoke! He was MOM at Anfield the other week. That was Amdy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Zog Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Coloccini is class and I've no doubt we'll all see that once he settles in and learns the language etc. I've no worries about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I feel kind of bad making a post about him because he is new and this isn't a great time for any of them but he does worry me and today in the first half he just didn't convince me at all. People are right in saying he needs a certain type of defender around him as does the team in general and it is early days. I just don't think he is or ever will be our defensive kingpin. There are far worse centre halves playing in far better defences. What i mean is, we need to be concentrating on picking a consistant defence and allowing them to gel. As well as this, we should be looking to give them more protection where appropriate. I believe if we do those things we will get better individual performances. Not forgetting a so-called "solid" everton defence conceded two against a side that had only scored five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Faye was a solid enough player but not top drawer which we still need based on the evidence of Coloccini's performances thus far. We need a brute back there, a solid dependable formidable rock. He doesn't have to be the best footballer, just a really top rate defender. Someone like Carragher at Liverpool, someone like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Aye cos Faye has been amazing for stoke! He was MOM at Anfield the other week. That was Amdy Was it? My mate who was at the game said the one we had was immense and got MOM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I think it's a bit more fair assessment than some of our fans who are trying to put him down in order to big up their own favourites. Some people will do out to build up Cacappa or Faye (Stoke City) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 It'll just be a Vidic-style first season. Bit inconsistent but generally ok. Would settle for that. We are too quick to write off players and make future judgements way too quickly. Like the Manchester United fans did 45 minutes into Vidic and Evra's debuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Aye cos Faye has been amazing for stoke! He was MOM at Anfield the other week. That was Amdy Was it? My mate who was at the game said the one we had was immense and got MOM. I thought when I put you knew I was joking about Amdy Faye being MOM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Aye cos Faye has been amazing for stoke! He was MOM at Anfield the other week. That was Amdy Was it? My mate who was at the game said the one we had was immense and got MOM. I thought when I put you knew I was joking about Amdy Faye being MOM. Oh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Completely disagree with HTT. Whenever i've seen him play, he's won the majority of his aerial battles and consistantly tracked back and broke down opposition attacks. He's also very confident on the ball. However, there have been "moments" not titus esq but in the last two games he has been at fault for two goals. When the team is playing as bad as it has been recently it's not suprising to see these incidents, when the side is in full flow and performing to it's potential you will see marked improvements from individuals. As i say every year. We need consistancy in our defence and throughout for that matter. Even in the shambles of the the last few weeks you can still see the kid's quality. But there again thats no surprise - he does play for Argentina after all. When stability returns ( a definite improvement today in that respect ) and we have 2 full backs and a team with shape, Coloccoini will be a key player and we'll see the best of him. Keegan seemed to love him and spoke very enthusiastically about his playing and passing ability as well as his defensive qualities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 i think he's gone between very good to pretty poor in the same games. today is a perfect example, had two or three errors early on, but also won a number of tricky challenges at times he wouldnt be expected to, cleaned up when the ball ran free and passed it around well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 He's probably the best defender we have when someone is running at him tbh, he doesn't lose many one on one's. As I said in the match thread, now that Faye has gone we've lost the physical defender who wins everything in the air which is the sort of defender Colo should be partnered with. Without being too personal, I argued that signing Coloccini and selling Faye was daft but we ended up arguing over which one was better - my point then and now was that it was a good signing as long as Faye stayed. I said after West Ham and how he played Cole I felt he would struggle against physical CFs like Yakubu, Jones and Heskey - I don't like being proved "right" and hope we can find a beast to play along side him. I'm also slightly disappointed that for an Argentinian, he hasn't really hurt anyone yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 He's probably the best defender we have when someone is running at him tbh, he doesn't lose many one on one's. As I said in the match thread, now that Faye has gone we've lost the physical defender who wins everything in the air which is the sort of defender Colo should be partnered with. Without being too personal, I argued that signing Coloccini and selling Faye was daft but we ended up arguing over which one was better - my point then and now was that it was a good signing as long as Faye stayed. I said after West Ham and how he played Cole I felt he would struggle against physical CFs like Yakubu, Jones and Heskey - I don't like being proved "right" and hope we can find a beast to play along side him. I'm also slightly disappointed that for an Argentinian, he hasn't really hurt anyone yet. Faye wanted to go so your argument is/was pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1878 Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 He's probably the best defender we have when someone is running at him tbh, he doesn't lose many one on one's. As I said in the match thread, now that Faye has gone we've lost the physical defender who wins everything in the air which is the sort of defender Colo should be partnered with. Without being too personal, I argued that signing Coloccini and selling Faye was daft but we ended up arguing over which one was better - my point then and now was that it was a good signing as long as Faye stayed. I said after West Ham and how he played Cole I felt he would struggle against physical CFs like Yakubu, Jones and Heskey - I don't like being proved "right" and hope we can find a beast to play along side him. I'm also slightly disappointed that for an Argentinian, he hasn't really hurt anyone yet I think Pavlyuchenko will disagree there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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