Rich Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Kinnear: I'll do it my way Nov 28 2008 By Lee Ryder, Evening Chronicle JOE Kinnear says he expects to have the final word over transfers at Newcastle United when the transfer window opens again in January. The Toon boss has already said he has his own list of transfer targets but after getting the green light to manage the Magpies until the end of season he will now get the chance to carry out his plans to take the club forward. Kevin Keegan is believed to have left the club because he had his hands tied in the transfer market and was unable to bring in players on his own shortlist. But Kinnear said today: "At the moment, the plan is that I identify the players I want and then that will go back to the chairman, Derek Llambias, and then I assume he will give Dennis Wise the order to go and get them, that's how it works. "But they are strictly my players. I identify them, it goes to the Board, they will back it, hopefully finances will be made available and then Dennis will be given the task to go and negotiate and get the job done." It remains to be seen whether the finances at Kinnear's disposal are sufficient to make permanent signings or simply to fund a series of loan deals. He said: "I have spoken to the owner, I have explained to him where I think we need to strengthen up with the squad that we have got. "He is quite happy with that and if we can get the players I am looking for, he has promised me that he will back me up." One of Kinnear's first priorities, however, will be to deal with the vexed question of his out-of-contract players, and particularly Owen's situation. The club captain was the first member of the squad to be informed of his appointment, and if it has anything to do with the manager, there will be plenty more conversations between the two over the coming weeks. Kinnear, who side faces a derby trip to Middlesbrough tomorow, said: "We have got to sit down with Michael now and actually find out how he feels about the situation. "At the moment, he is being very receptive. I believe he likes it here, to be honest. "That's my personal opinion, but until I actually hear it from Michael, I don't know. "But I sincerely hope I am in a position to keep him, for sure, because I wouldn't want to lose him." Kinnear was initially installed as interim boss at the end of September when Ashley turned to him after a series of other candidates has rejected the chance to fill Keegan's shoes. The billionaire had already decided to sell the club after finding himself the target of a furious backlash from angry fans, and he swiftly engaged the services of Keith Harris, chairman of investment Bank Seymour Pierce, to find a buyer. But the financial implosion which has hit economies worldwide in recent month has made that process all the more arduous, and despite indications of interest from the Middle and Far East, Africa and America, no-one has yet come up with an acceptable offer for a club which has to date cost Ashley around £240million. Today's move has given Harris breathing space, and Kinnear admits he has sensed a new determination in Ashley to address the problems which have blighted the club since his original masterplan went up in smoke. He said: "He [Ashley] is very keen to get on an even keel, and the only we we can do that is to start getting results. "It's about bringing Michael down and looking at the situation and him saying, 'I am prepared to back the club again' as he has done in the past. "Hopefully, I can forge a future friendship with him." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Joe will soon find out that Ashley's promises don't mean a whole lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Here we go again....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Ashley can't win either way on this one like. He gives Joe money he'll get it in the neck over Keegan again, he doesn't give Joe money he'll get it in the neck because of the fear of relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 now we'll see just how true that henry, lampard etc story is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Ashley can't win either way on this one like. He gives Joe money he'll get it in the neck over Keegan again, he doesn't give Joe money he'll get it in the neck because of the fear of relegation. Tough shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 mackems.gif mackems.gif mackems.gif mackems.gif mackems.gif mackems.gif He is not a mild man like Keegan, Wise will get a right old kicking if he fkd with JK!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 As long the squad is improved, I couldn't give a fuck who actually signs the players at this moment in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 At the moment, the plan is that I identify the players I want and then that will go back to the chairman, Derek Llambias, and then I assume he will give Dennis Wise the order to go and get them, that's how it works. He's not really sure how it works then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Ashley can't win either way on this one like. He gives Joe money he'll get it in the neck over Keegan again, he doesn't give Joe money he'll get it in the neck because of the fear of relegation. Tough shit. i think he'll give kinnear a little bit, not spending anything might be too risky even for Ashley, but no doubt there'll be big pressure to sell as well. i mean, if villa or spurs hoy in a £10m bid for Owen, do you think Ashley is going to say no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Funny how they wouldn't back KK, but are appearing to do the opposite with JK..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Ashley can't win either way on this one like. He gives Joe money he'll get it in the neck over Keegan again, he doesn't give Joe money he'll get it in the neck because of the fear of relegation. Aye, well it's his fault for buying the club with the intention of selling it, and then not selling it just because the fans want him to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 now we'll see just how true that henry, lampard etc story is. Please tell me your drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 now we'll see just how true that henry, lampard etc story is. Please tell me your drunk No, no. He's the only lucid one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 now we'll see just how true that henry, lampard etc story is. Please tell me your drunk if jk gets his men (who i imagine will be realistic targets) then questions have to be asked about just who keegan wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 now we'll see just how true that henry, lampard etc story is. Please tell me your drunk if jk gets his men (who i imagine will be realistic targets) then questions have to be asked about just who keegan wanted. Good luck proving any of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Funny how they wouldn't back KK, but are appearing to do the opposite with JK..... Well they appeared to be backing KK as well to all intents and purposes. If Joe thinks he has been brought here on an interim basis and is suddenly going to have the final say on transfers he's in for a rude awakening. I have to say I'm glad about that as well. I think the transfer business has been one of the plus points of the Ashley era, other than the fact we didn't spend enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Funny how they wouldn't back KK, but are appearing to do the opposite with JK..... Well they appeared to be backing KK as well to all intents and purposes. If Joe thinks he has been brought here on an interim basis and is suddenly going to have the final say on transfers he's in for a rude awakening. I have to say I'm glad about that as well. I think the transfer business has been one of the plus points of the Ashley era, other than the fact we didn't spend enough. Kind of go hand-in-hand though don't you think? I know what you're getting at btw and to some extent I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 now we'll see just how true that henry, lampard etc story is. Please tell me your drunk if jk gets his men (who i imagine will be realistic targets) then questions have to be asked about just who keegan wanted. Good luck proving any of that. ok dont ask then. just assume he wanted realistic targets in the right areas but didnt get them because wise is a prick. makes more sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Funny how they wouldn't back KK, but are appearing to do the opposite with JK..... Well they appeared to be backing KK as well to all intents and purposes. If Joe thinks he has been brought here on an interim basis and is suddenly going to have the final say on transfers he's in for a rude awakening. I have to say I'm glad about that as well. I think the transfer business has been one of the plus points of the Ashley era, other than the fact we didn't spend enough. Kind of go hand-in-hand though don't you think? I know what you're getting at btw and to some extent I agree. The signings have been generally decent squad fillers but there wasn't enough of them obviously. I can't say I trust Kinnear in the transfer market which is why I am glad he won't have a free hand tbh. I have a feeling that any players coming in will be ones we have targeted previously like Skjelbred or Larsson, possibly Warnock. If JK comes up with a decent shout I'm sure it'll be considered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 to be honest, I'd still be surprised if we get anyone in in Jan. Riise perhaps, as he's far down the pecking order, but I just can't see Ashley spending money, regardless of our situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 now we'll see just how true that henry, lampard etc story is. Please tell me your drunk if jk gets his men (who i imagine will be realistic targets) then questions have to be asked about just who keegan wanted. Good luck proving any of that. ok dont ask then. just assume he wanted realistic targets in the right areas but didnt get them because wise is a prick. makes more sense. Or maybe Keegan wanted the kind of quality (genuinely attainable quality) he thinks we deserve but the club werent prepared to pay the going rate. Just a thought like as a kind of counter argument Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 But Kinnear said today: "At the moment, the plan is that I identify the players I want and then that will go back to the chairman, Derek Llambias, and then I assume he will give Dennis Wise the order to go and get them, that's how it works. "But they are strictly my players. I identify them, it goes to the Board, they will back it, hopefully finances will be made available and then Dennis will be given the task to go and negotiate and get the job done." Will Dennis be able to cope without Tony La-Liga at his side? I hope Den gets a new Casio calculator for Crimbo with VAT set at 15% rather than 17.5%. We really need to bring in a Interim-Vice President (Player Recruitment) while we are up for sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Ashley can't win either way on this one like. He gives Joe money he'll get it in the neck over Keegan again, he doesn't give Joe money he'll get it in the neck because of the fear of relegation. Undoubtedly, but he's the one who's put himself in this situation. It's his own fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Libertine Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 now we'll see just how true that henry, lampard etc story is. Please tell me your drunk if jk gets his men (who i imagine will be realistic targets) then questions have to be asked about just who keegan wanted. Good luck proving any of that. ok dont ask then. just assume he wanted realistic targets in the right areas but didnt get them because wise is a prick. makes more sense. Or maybe Keegan wanted the kind of quality (genuinely attainable quality) he thinks we deserve but the club werent prepared to pay the going rate. Just a thought like as a kind of counter argument Modric? Woodgate? probably a few more i cant remember atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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