KaKa Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Spurs should offer McCleish Jenas, Hutton, Defoe, Crouch, Pavluychenko and Bentley for Darren Bent back. Think he might go for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 So Redknapp's been here 2 and a half season (5 transfer windows) and we've signed.... Friedel - Free Bassong - 8m Kaboul - 5m Walker and Naughton - combined 7m Gallas- Free Palacios - 12m Kranjcar - 2m Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m VDV - 8M Sandro - 8m Total = 83m Now in that time we've sold Bent - (11m rising to 16.5m) O'Hara - 5m Gunter - 2.5m Keane - 3m Taarabt - 1m So that's basically a 60m net spend in 3 seasons which is in no way "Bucket loads" considering the teams we're competing with spend that in 1 transfer window let alone 5. Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m if you actually had bought quality instead of these wasters, £60m would have been enough. out of that lot only VDV is 100% guaranteed starter. Perhaps Friedel also. And Gallas who was on a free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 So Redknapp's been here 2 and a half season (5 transfer windows) and we've signed.... Friedel - Free Bassong - 8m Kaboul - 5m Walker and Naughton - combined 7m Gallas- Free Palacios - 12m Kranjcar - 2m Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m VDV - 8M Sandro - 8m Total = 83m Now in that time we've sold Bent - (11m rising to 16.5m) O'Hara - 5m Gunter - 2.5m Keane - 3m Taarabt - 1m So that's basically a 60m net spend in 3 seasons which is in no way "Bucket loads" considering the teams we're competing with spend that in 1 transfer window let alone 5. Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m if you actually had bought quality instead of these wasters, £60m would have been enough. out of that lot only VDV is 100% guaranteed starter. Perhaps Friedel also. And Gallas who was on a free. thing is though in the season where they got into the CL Crouch and Defoe were quite good just really gone to shit last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 All Tottenham had to do was keep a hold of Bent and they would have been even further along than they are right now. Probably would have scored 30 playing upfront in the exact same team they had last season. Redknapp insinuating that Darren Bent was no better than his "missus" probably wasn't the smartest move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 So Redknapp's been here 2 and a half season (5 transfer windows) and we've signed.... Friedel - Free Bassong - 8m Kaboul - 5m Walker and Naughton - combined 7m Gallas- Free Palacios - 12m Kranjcar - 2m Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m VDV - 8M Sandro - 8m Total = 83m Now in that time we've sold Bent - (11m rising to 16.5m) O'Hara - 5m Gunter - 2.5m Keane - 3m Taarabt - 1m So that's basically a 60m net spend in 3 seasons which is in no way "Bucket loads" considering the teams we're competing with spend that in 1 transfer window let alone 5. Edit : forgot we sold Boateng for 5m too and i'm sure theres a few others. Someone throw the maths at him for our net spend :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 So Redknapp's been here 2 and a half season (5 transfer windows) and we've signed.... Friedel - Free Bassong - 8m Kaboul - 5m Walker and Naughton - combined 7m Gallas- Free Palacios - 12m Kranjcar - 2m Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m VDV - 8M Sandro - 8m Total = 83m Now in that time we've sold Bent - (11m rising to 16.5m) O'Hara - 5m Gunter - 2.5m Keane - 3m Taarabt - 1m So that's basically a 60m net spend in 3 seasons which is in no way "Bucket loads" considering the teams we're competing with spend that in 1 transfer window let alone 5. Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m if you actually had bought quality instead of these wasters, £60m would have been enough. out of that lot only VDV is 100% guaranteed starter. Perhaps Friedel also. And Gallas who was on a free. thing is though in the season where they got into the CL Crouch and Defoe were quite good just really gone to shit last season They used £28m pounds to buy back players they sold one window before. Even the useless Chimbonda. thats £30m wasted. They could have been so much better off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 So Redknapp's been here 2 and a half season (5 transfer windows) and we've signed.... Friedel - Free Bassong - 8m Kaboul - 5m Walker and Naughton - combined 7m Gallas- Free Palacios - 12m Kranjcar - 2m Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m VDV - 8M Sandro - 8m Total = 83m Now in that time we've sold Bent - (11m rising to 16.5m) O'Hara - 5m Gunter - 2.5m Keane - 3m Taarabt - 1m So that's basically a 60m net spend in 3 seasons which is in no way "Bucket loads" considering the teams we're competing with spend that in 1 transfer window let alone 5. Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m if you actually had bought quality instead of these wasters, £60m would have been enough. out of that lot only VDV is 100% guaranteed starter. Perhaps Friedel also. And Gallas who was on a free. Ok now we're making a judgement on the quality of signing as opposed to how much we've spent? Ok i'll do that then. Out of that list... Gallas Bassong Kaboul Palacios Sandro VDV Defoe Kranjcar have all proven their worth to the team at the time, and have been good signings. Walker will probably end up a good buy too (as will Friedel). Only Keane from his buys has been a terrible signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 So Redknapp's been here 2 and a half season (5 transfer windows) and we've signed.... Friedel - Free Bassong - 8m Kaboul - 5m Walker and Naughton - combined 7m Gallas- Free Palacios - 12m Kranjcar - 2m Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m VDV - 8M Sandro - 8m Total = 83m Now in that time we've sold Bent - (11m rising to 16.5m) O'Hara - 5m Gunter - 2.5m Keane - 3m Taarabt - 1m So that's basically a 60m net spend in 3 seasons which is in no way "Bucket loads" considering the teams we're competing with spend that in 1 transfer window let alone 5. Edit : forgot we sold Boateng for 5m too and i'm sure theres a few others. You can't say that on a Newcastle forum mate, that sort of spending is dream world I don't disagree with you though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Regardless of the money he's spent, you cannot argue that Redknapp has not improved Tottenham. They are a far better side now than before he came. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 So Redknapp's been here 2 and a half season (5 transfer windows) and we've signed.... Friedel - Free Bassong - 8m Kaboul - 5m Walker and Naughton - combined 7m Gallas- Free Palacios - 12m Kranjcar - 2m Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m VDV - 8M Sandro - 8m Total = 83m Now in that time we've sold Bent - (11m rising to 16.5m) O'Hara - 5m Gunter - 2.5m Keane - 3m Taarabt - 1m So that's basically a 60m net spend in 3 seasons which is in no way "Bucket loads" considering the teams we're competing with spend that in 1 transfer window let alone 5. Crouch- 9m Defoe - 12m Keane - 12m if you actually had bought quality instead of these wasters, £60m would have been enough. out of that lot only VDV is 100% guaranteed starter. Perhaps Friedel also. And Gallas who was on a free. Ok now we're making a judgement on the quality of signing as opposed to how much we've spent? Ok i'll do that then. Out of that list... Gallas Bassong Kaboul Palacios Sandro VDV Defoe Kranjcar have all proven their worth to the team at the time, and have been good signings. Walker will probably end up a good buy too (as will Friedel). Only Keane from his buys has been a terrible signing. as proven on sunday, Kaboul is hardly top quality is he? Bassong is a good prospect, but he likes to copy Bramble abit to often. And he is always holding the oppositionplayers shirts. Sandro looks to be quality, shame he didn't come into abit earlier. Defoe - should have been spent on another striker. He was sold for a reason. Same goes for Keane. Krancjar has never really been a starter for you. However i think he is a quality player, but he hasn't been one for you so far due to limited game time. Palacios is overrated. One of the worst players in your squad. You have some great signings, but in my opinion you could have been so much better off if they money from berbatov and keane would have been spent on new players, instead of recycling players that left. edit: Gallas has been a steal for you. Good player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 You don't get it do you mate? at the time we got players like Defoe, Keane, and Palacios we was in the relegation zone and there was no way we could attract top quality players. At the time it was a quick fix to get us out of the predicament we was in, and it worked. Obviously not the smartest move long term but we were desperate at the time and without those 3 players in particular we'd have been relegated no queestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Yeah, agreed. It got Spurs out of the fix they were in at the time, but has seriously now hampered their abitlity to take the next step. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 You don't get it do you mate? at the time we got players like Defoe, Keane, and Palacios we was in the relegation zone and there was no way we could attract top quality players. At the time it was a quick fix to get us out of the predicament we was in, and it worked. Obviously not the smartest move long term but we were desperate at the time and without those 3 players in particular we'd have been relegated no queestion. There are other players around than ones that have already left you. There's been life after Carroll and Nolan here so far, and im sure there would have been the same at Tottenham also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Yeah, agreed. It got Spurs out of the fix they were in at the time, but has seriously now hampered their abitlity to take the next step. Yep i agree altough it looks like we're gonna recoup near enough all the cash we spent on Palacios and maybe Crouch too. Arry wants Bellamy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 You don't get it do you mate? at the time we got players like Defoe, Keane, and Palacios we was in the relegation zone and there was no way we could attract top quality players. At the time it was a quick fix to get us out of the predicament we was in, and it worked. Obviously not the smartest move long term but we were desperate at the time and without those 3 players in particular we'd have been relegated no queestion. Yeah, it's a bit daft to just list all of the players a club has signed over a 3 year period and claim there all flops as they aren't current squad members like. On the flip side he managed to get VDV for the ludicrous price of 8m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kingdawson Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 You don't get it do you mate? at the time we got players like Defoe, Keane, and Palacios we was in the relegation zone and there was no way we could attract top quality players. At the time it was a quick fix to get us out of the predicament we was in, and it worked. Obviously not the smartest move long term but we were desperate at the time and without those 3 players in particular we'd have been relegated no queestion. There are other players around than ones that have already left you. There's been life after Carroll and Nolan here so far, and im sure there would have been the same at Tottenham also. yes but palacios was a straight beast for a year and Defoe's goal return was very good also so it worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 You don't get it do you mate? at the time we got players like Defoe, Keane, and Palacios we was in the relegation zone and there was no way we could attract top quality players. At the time it was a quick fix to get us out of the predicament we was in, and it worked. Obviously not the smartest move long term but we were desperate at the time and without those 3 players in particular we'd have been relegated no queestion. There are other players around than ones that have already left you. There's been life after Carroll and Nolan here so far, and im sure there would have been the same at Tottenham also. yes but palacios was a straight beast for a year and Defoe's goal return was very good also so it worked. good for a year, but surely its allowed to expect more than that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I'm guessing if London gets the 2017 Athletics World Championships, Spurs won't be getting this stadium since they won't want the track? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Interesting read http://oneinthehole.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/why-harry-redknapp-is-no-longer-the-manager-to-take-spurs-forward/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Interesting read http://oneinthehole.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/why-harry-redknapp-is-no-longer-the-manager-to-take-spurs-forward/ Great read... Would love to think what the TalkSport breakfast show would think of it or Gough and Saggers... All 'arry lovers... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 Interesting read http://oneinthehole.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/why-harry-redknapp-is-no-longer-the-manager-to-take-spurs-forward/ Perfect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 30, 2011 Share Posted August 30, 2011 I imagine I'd find that an interesting read if I had the energy to read through it. Might give it an attempt tomorrow. First paragraph wasn't too bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Interesting read http://oneinthehole.wordpress.com/2011/08/29/why-harry-redknapp-is-no-longer-the-manager-to-take-spurs-forward/ whan an excellently written deconstruction of the myth of Harry Redknapp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Lack of tactical and training instruction is probably the reason that Bassong has regressed. We need to bring him back if he's considered deadwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Lack of tactical and training instruction is probably the reason that Bassong has regressed. We need to bring him back if he's considered deadwood. Would be perfect imo. The few here that might have begrudged him leaving are long gone. Would be perfect for LB cover and 3/4th choice CB. However we apparently already turned down the chance to sign him earlier in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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