Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 What would you consider an offer too good to refuse? Serious offers like, not horses heads in beds, or owt. I'd use the Berbatov deal as a precedent. Berbatov was arguably more talented at the time but had also just about peaked whereas Carroll's barely into his twenties which should add value and the fact he's pretty much irreplaceable to us adding more. So basically a canny bit more than £30m, which I don't think anyone will be prepared to pay at the minute. Not sure that's the best way to look at it, considering how desperate Man U were to sign him and then had to battle Man City to sign him on deadline day with Tottenham playing it clever the whole time too. However, if someone was to offer silly money, so £30m+, are you saying you'd accept that under the assumption it'd be put back into the squad? What if it was just going to cover another year's worth of debt instead, rather than Mike Ashley forking out the yearly £20m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Dennis Wise is a little scrotum. Minimum £35m for Carroll, which thankfully wont happen for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 £40m. I wouldn't sell him for that personally. I'd have no faith that we'd invest it in the squad, and even less faith that we'd spend much of it wisely. We need to keep him. If we sell him, well it was before my time, but it's the 80s all over again. It would show a huge lack of ambition to get rid of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 What would you consider an offer too good to refuse? Serious offers like, not horses heads in beds, or owt. I'd use the Berbatov deal as a precedent. Berbatov was arguably more talented at the time but had also just about peaked whereas Carroll's barely into his twenties which should add value and the fact he's pretty much irreplaceable to us adding more. So basically a canny bit more than £30m, which I don't think anyone will be prepared to pay at the minute. Not sure that's the best way to look at it, considering how desperate Man U were to sign him and then had to battle Man City to sign him on deadline day with Tottenham playing it clever the whole time too. However, if someone was to offer silly money, so £30m+, are you saying you'd accept that under the assumption it'd be put back into the squad? What if it was just going to cover another year's worth of debt instead, rather than Mike Ashley forking out the yearly £20m? Basically I don't think anyone will offer his worth to us atm which, with a sensible owner, would be around the £35m mark. However with a very less than sensible offer I can see a much smaller sum being accepted which shouldn't be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Also your asking whether we'd sell him at this price, which is implying that the decision is ours and therefore we'd be able to implement the reinvestment as we see fit. Unfortunately the decision is Ashley's and under Ashley selling big is pointless because you know he'll use it to cover costs only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 What would you consider an offer too good to refuse? Serious offers like, not horses heads in beds, or owt. I'd use the Berbatov deal as a precedent. Berbatov was arguably more talented at the time but had also just about peaked whereas Carroll's barely into his twenties which should add value and the fact he's pretty much irreplaceable to us adding more. So basically a canny bit more than £30m, which I don't think anyone will be prepared to pay at the minute. Not sure that's the best way to look at it, considering how desperate Man U were to sign him and then had to battle Man City to sign him on deadline day with Tottenham playing it clever the whole time too. However, if someone was to offer silly money, so £30m+, are you saying you'd accept that under the assumption it'd be put back into the squad? What if it was just going to cover another year's worth of debt instead, rather than Mike Ashley forking out the yearly £20m? Basically I don't think anyone will offer his worth to us atm which, with a sensible owner, would be around the £35m mark. However with a very less than sensible offer I can see a much smaller sum being accepted which shouldn't be. If we accepted £20m or so for him I'd be fucking fuming. Lescott went for that ffs. Ah, this is stressing me out now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 February can't come soon enough tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Imagine if we had 2 Andy Carrolls. http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1572/carroll2.jpg I'd probably consider selling one of them then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filflop1 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 most transfer windows shearer was going to leave according to the press so i wouldnt worry about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Yet to see one real and believable quote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tall Striker Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Yet to see one real and believable quote. "I'm just going to go out there and carry on doing what I have been doing," Carroll said. "I've always worked towards being where I am now and want to stay here - it's as simple as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Lol Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 What would you consider an offer too good to refuse? Serious offers like, not horses heads in beds, or owt. I'd use the Berbatov deal as a precedent. Berbatov was arguably more talented at the time but had also just about peaked whereas Carroll's barely into his twenties which should add value and the fact he's pretty much irreplaceable to us adding more. So basically a canny bit more than £30m, which I don't think anyone will be prepared to pay at the minute. Not sure that's the best way to look at it, considering how desperate Man U were to sign him and then had to battle Man City to sign him on deadline day with Tottenham playing it clever the whole time too. However, if someone was to offer silly money, so £30m+, are you saying you'd accept that under the assumption it'd be put back into the squad? What if it was just going to cover another year's worth of debt instead, rather than Mike Ashley forking out the yearly £20m? Basically I don't think anyone will offer his worth to us atm which, with a sensible owner, would be around the £35m mark. However with a very less than sensible offer I can see a much smaller sum being accepted which shouldn't be. If we accepted £20m or so for him I'd be f***ing fuming. Lescott went for that ffs. Ah, this is stressing me out now. If Ipswich are wanting £10m+ for Wickham it's fair to assume Carroll's fee if he went would be a lot more than £20m. Can't see him moving to Spurs, Harry hasn't said that Carroll is a player he admires but he's not interested in signing him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I'd hate him to leave, but if he ever did, I hope it's to Man Utd, Arsenal or Chelsea, or even City if they've spunked £40m on him. Would hate to see him at Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 He shouldn't be able to leave. Local players should never be allowed to leave ( unless they're shit). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 If he was to leave in January, what kind of impact would that have on the team and our chances of staying in the Premier League? Virtually all of our goals are either scored or created by him so at this stage, he is irreplaceable. There is no way that we would take Crouch or Keane in part exchange - two underperforming players who probably would not want to come in the first place and who would want twice the salary that Carroll is presently on. Even if Ashley is interested in cashing in, surely it is too big a gamble even for him at this stage of the season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Tottenham and their insanely cheapish owners and manager can fu*k off. Carroll stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 Even if Ashley is interested in cashing in, surely it is too big a gamble even for him at this stage of the season? You think?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 We all know that we shouldn't underestimate Ashley's ability to destroy a good situation. I'm just enjoying him playing for us, and hoping Ashley is gone by the time Carroll's stock is sky high/he isn't mental enough to sell our most important player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 There would be no point in Ashley selling Carroll half way through the season. His value isn't going to decline between now and the summer, and we need him to ensure our Premiership place. We're not desperate to raise money. From what I can see, Ashley's main concern is the wage bill and getting to a point where income and expenditure are matching up. A short term infusion of cash through a transfer doesn't really address that problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 How Ashley will see bids for Carroll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YadDFc1ioDs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 The main problem is that few if any have faith that if we sold him for a daft fee the money would be used by the board to strengthen the rest of the team and/or on a replacement and that the manager has the necessary ability not to buy shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I think £25-30M would be too much to refuse personally, assuming it would be used to strengthen the squad as that much could get 3 good quality players for positions we need (although two of those positions would subsequently be up front). However, thankfully off the field he's a nutcase which I think would deter new clubs from parting with such large mount of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I don't think any money would make me happy, it would have to be the elusive "swap deals" and even then the other club wouldn't think it was worth what I wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I don't think any money would make me happy, it would have to be the elusive "swap deals" and even then the other club wouldn't think it was worth what I wanted. I agree on the money, but I don't want Keane or Crouch in exchange. We know their limitations, and they're realtively old. Carroll has the world at his feet and he is local. There is very little that could replace that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 I don't think any money would make me happy, it would have to be the elusive "swap deals" and even then the other club wouldn't think it was worth what I wanted. I agree on the money, but I don't want Keane or Crouch in exchange. We know their limitations, and they're realtively old. Carroll has the world at his feet and he is local. There is very little that could replace that. I was thinking more Defore, VDV, Hutton and Bentley , ie never going to happen and I am fine with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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