Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 How many players have to contradict themselves before people stop being shocked? It's a career and a business. No, football is more than a career and business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Have the now dubious pleasure of being in the Boardroom and Directors Box on Wednesday night. Questions for MA on a postcard please... When are we going to show ambition on a consistant basis like a top club should? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If we have a net spend of £35 Million in the summer I will drink my own . . . . . . actually, best not say that - I would be shocked if a significant portion of the money goes back on the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
furney89 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Ian McGarry says he spoke to a premier league manager said he was offered AC LAST WEEKEND. He also goes on to say people who think this has just happened "all of a sudden" are wrong. He's sure that we cashed in, and that theve played it well to place the blame on AC Grim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Are you being serious? How is this anyone's fault but carroll's? Did Ashley put the request in for him? Did he make Liverpool bid for him? Like I said, I'd rather he wasn't leaving, but how you can blame the owner et al for this one is ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Got to love the delusion of people thinking this money will be reinvested in the squad to a decent degree. I'll be stunned if we make any signing over £8m for the foreseeable future. A fee of £10m+ means big wages and then the rest of the squad want increases etc etc. Not going to happen. Yeah going on past trends is delusional. Where as pulling opinions out of your arse is sound logic. I am going on past trends. No you aren't. The whole ethos of the club is value for money. We don't sign big name players any more. If we spend this £35m it won't be on any top players like Andy Carroll. Therefore none of them will be in double figures. Fairly straight forward if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone get a grip man, £35 million and he's decided he wants to go. How's that ashley's fault you utter morons. It's times like this I hate being a Newcastle fan because 85% of our fans are idiots. It's £35 million! Imagine what we can do with that?! How does anyone know it won't be reinvested? When has Ashley ever 'kept' any transfer fees? I'd rather he wasn't going, but it's his choice, and I hope he's f***ing s****, breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone get a grip man, £35 million and he's decided he wants to go. How's that ashley's fault you utter morons. It's times like this I hate being a Newcastle fan because 85% of our fans are idiots. It's £35 million! Imagine what we can do with that?! How does anyone know it won't be reinvested? When has Ashley ever 'kept' any transfer fees? I'd rather he wasn't going, but it's his choice, and I hope he's fucking shite, breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids Don't talk shite man You really think all of that's going to go on the team? You only have to look at Ashley's track record to this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone get a grip man, £35 million and he's decided he wants to go. How's that ashley's fault you utter morons. It's times like this I hate being a Newcastle fan because 85% of our fans are idiots. It's £35 million! Imagine what we can do with that?! How does anyone know it won't be reinvested? When has Ashley ever 'kept' any transfer fees? I'd rather he wasn't going, but it's his choice, and I hope he's f***ing s****, breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids Don't talk s**** man You really think all of that's going to go on the team? You only have to look at Ashley's track record to this point. isn't his track record that he's put money in to keep the club afloat and for transfers ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 £35 million is insane money. The problem is the state of the team now for me. The club are absolutely bonkers if they don't get some players in now, having sold Carroll. The actual sale of Carrol for £35 million in of itself I can't really fault though, unbelievable by Liverpool. It's all about what happens next though. Can Mike Ashley really be crazy enough to sell him and not get anyone in this window?! My God he would be mental to do so, absolutely mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YANKEEBLEEDSMAGPIE Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Andy was considering leaving until his agent tells him this morning that NUFC look to be serious about weighing offers for him from Liverpool and Tottenham and that he may have to put in a transfer request in order to get the 2x-3x salary increase that he'd probably get. I firmly believe he was happy at our club and willing to stay, but when the club looked so eager to shop him around, I think he realized he had to do what was best for himself in an uncertain situation, and in order to guarantee his payday, was willing to submit the transfer request to make sure he got it. Its incredible that this scenario, which is you're opinion not fact, leaves Carroll completely blameless. Correct, it is my opinion. It's speculation on a situation that simply cannot be credibly taken at face value. For Andy, I believe that money talks and in the end, once he sees that he has a chance to win trophies at 3x the pay, he's going to do it. When he sees the club willing to sell him, it reiterates that the club aren't serious about winning or spending. Makes the decision to put in the transfer request much easier. For me, the blame is primarily on Ashley, less on Carroll. He has no intention on getting us to European football, which should be his goal. The business model he believes in of being a shoestring club that develops young/low-wage players and selling them off may be good for his bottom-line, but for any fans who are serious about competing for Europe and building a club that aims for winning shiny silver things that go in nice glass cabinets, you should be very much aware by now that Michael Ashley does not share your ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone get a grip man, £35 million and he's decided he wants to go. How's that ashley's fault you utter morons. It's times like this I hate being a Newcastle fan because 85% of our fans are idiots. It's £35 million! Imagine what we can do with that?! How does anyone know it won't be reinvested? When has Ashley ever 'kept' any transfer fees? I'd rather he wasn't going, but it's his choice, and I hope he's f***ing s****, breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids Don't talk s**** man You really think all of that's going to go on the team? You only have to look at Ashley's track record to this point. isn't his track record that he's put money in to keep the club afloat and for transfers ? He also has a track record of selling our best players.. Milner, Given, N'Zogbia, Carroll... Who's next? Tiote? Enrique? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Andy was considering leaving until his agent tells him this morning that NUFC look to be serious about weighing offers for him from Liverpool and Tottenham and that he may have to put in a transfer request in order to get the 2x-3x salary increase that he'd probably get. I firmly believe he was happy at our club and willing to stay, but when the club looked so eager to shop him around, I think he realized he had to do what was best for himself in an uncertain situation, and in order to guarantee his payday, was willing to submit the transfer request to make sure he got it. Its incredible that this scenario, which is you're opinion not fact, leaves Carroll completely blameless. Correct, it is my opinion. It's speculation on a situation that simply cannot be credibly taken at face value. For Andy, I believe that money talks and in the end, once he sees that he has a chance to win trophies at 3x the pay, he's going to do it. When he sees the club willing to sell him, it reiterates that the club aren't serious about winning or spending. Makes the decision to put in the transfer request much easier. For me, the blame is primarily on Ashley, less on Carroll. He has no intention on getting us to European football, which should be his goal. The business model he believes in of being a shoestring club that develops young/low-wage players and selling them off may be good for his bottom-line, but for any fans who are serious about competing for Europe and building a club that aims for winning shiny silver things that go in nice glass cabinets, you should be aware very much by now that Michael Ashley does not share your ambition. Well put Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone get a grip man, £35 million and he's decided he wants to go. How's that ashley's fault you utter morons. It's times like this I hate being a Newcastle fan because 85% of our fans are idiots. It's £35 million! Imagine what we can do with that?! How does anyone know it won't be reinvested? When has Ashley ever 'kept' any transfer fees? I'd rather he wasn't going, but it's his choice, and I hope he's f***ing s****, breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids Don't talk s**** man You really think all of that's going to go on the team? You only have to look at Ashley's track record to this point. isn't his track record that he's put money in to keep the club afloat and for transfers ? I'm talking about first team investment only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone get a grip man, £35 million and he's decided he wants to go. How's that ashley's fault you utter morons. It's times like this I hate being a Newcastle fan because 85% of our fans are idiots. It's £35 million! Imagine what we can do with that?! How does anyone know it won't be reinvested? When has Ashley ever 'kept' any transfer fees? I'd rather he wasn't going, but it's his choice, and I hope he's fucking shite, breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids Just imagine, because it aint ever going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone get a grip man, £35 million and he's decided he wants to go. How's that ashley's fault you utter morons. It's times like this I hate being a Newcastle fan because 85% of our fans are idiots. It's £35 million! Imagine what we can do with that?! How does anyone know it won't be reinvested? When has Ashley ever 'kept' any transfer fees? I'd rather he wasn't going, but it's his choice, and I hope he's f***ing s****, breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids Don't talk s**** man You really think all of that's going to go on the team? You only have to look at Ashley's track record to this point. isn't his track record that he's put money in to keep the club afloat and for transfers ? He also has a track record of selling our best players.. Milner, Given, N'Zogbia, Carroll... Who's next? Tiote? Enrique? All four wanted to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Let me ask you this: if he wanted to go, why hand in a transfer request today? Why not hand it in ten days ago when he could have had the best clubs in the world lining up to buy him? Did he get his head turned by the money today? As if, man. Everyone knew how much more money he would have made if he left. His agent probably had a duty to tell him this. Yet he still came out and said he wanted to stay yesterday. Why do that if you have any intention of leaving? He didnt want to leave. Lfc agree a few with Ashley, Ashley tells Carroll. Carroll wanted to stay yesterday but how do you think he reacted to finding out the bid was accepted? What, you think he cries his eyes out and begged to stay? Get fucked. He's a confident lad who is in supreme form and wanted by every big club in the world. He knows this. Do you think hes going to care that ashley thinks nufc will be better off with the 35m. He says fuck you, your loss and talks terms with Liverpool. Ashley knowing that he could kill the morale in the squad, insists that Carroll hand in a transfer request. Carroll knows hes getting his wages tripled so he's not bothered about the loyalty fee. At this point, he's as good as gone. Maybe he's concerned about burning his bridges in newcaslte, but a confident young sportsman doesn't fret about this shit. He thinks he's going to a better club, going to be paid more and will have a greater chance of getting glory. So he agrees, and the news comes out. 15 minutes later the terms have already been agreed and he's on his way to Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids Stooping to mackem levels of wankerness there like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Andy was considering leaving until his agent tells him this morning that NUFC look to be serious about weighing offers for him from Liverpool and Tottenham and that he may have to put in a transfer request in order to get the 2x-3x salary increase that he'd probably get. I firmly believe he was happy at our club and willing to stay, but when the club looked so eager to shop him around, I think he realized he had to do what was best for himself in an uncertain situation, and in order to guarantee his payday, was willing to submit the transfer request to make sure he got it. Its incredible that this scenario, which is you're opinion not fact, leaves Carroll completely blameless. Correct, it is my opinion. It's speculation on a situation that simply cannot be credibly taken at face value. For Andy, I believe that money talks and in the end, once he sees that he has a chance to win trophies at 3x the pay, he's going to do it. When he sees the club willing to sell him, it reiterates that the club aren't serious about winning or spending. Makes the decision to put in the transfer request much easier. For me, the blame is primarily on Ashley, less on Carroll. He has no intention on getting us to European football, which should be his goal. The business model he believes in of being a shoestring club that develops young/low-wage players and selling them off may be good for his bottom-line, but for any fans who are serious about competing for Europe and building a club that aims for winning shiny silver things that go in nice glass cabinets, you should be aware very much by now that Michael Ashley does not share your ambition. How the fuck is Carroll blameless. He got a new fucking contract in November. Shearer could have joined Man Utd at various times when he was at NUFC to be the richest footballer on the planet and didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Everyone get a grip man, £35 million and he's decided he wants to go. How's that ashley's fault you utter morons. It's times like this I hate being a Newcastle fan because 85% of our fans are idiots. It's £35 million! Imagine what we can do with that?! How does anyone know it won't be reinvested? When has Ashley ever 'kept' any transfer fees? I'd rather he wasn't going, but it's his choice, and I hope he's f***ing s****, breaks his legs, goes to prison, and gets aids Don't talk s**** man You really think all of that's going to go on the team? You only have to look at Ashley's track record to this point. isn't his track record that he's put money in to keep the club afloat and for transfers ? He also has a track record of selling our best players.. Milner, Given, N'Zogbia, Carroll... Who's next? Tiote? Enrique? All four wanted to leave Ssh. It doesn't fit the agenda. All were forced out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Still; I'll be getting my Carroll 9 shirt in the mail any day now. That's some investment right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Tiote and Enrique will be agitating for moves sooner rather than later. Today sends out a hugely negative message to our current playing staff that the club has very little ambition in chasing success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I miss Shearer. I miss Bobby. I miss KK. I miss Harvey. Say what you like but these are the type of men i want associated with my football club. Those who love the club and do things for the right reasons. Andy Carroll- you were an idol an icon and you've p***ed it all away to go to a club with no emotional connections. C*** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Let me ask you this: if he wanted to go, why hand in a transfer request today? Maybe because like 90% of us he thought Ashley would take the first big offer we got for him so wouldn't have to, and when it got to 5pm and we were still rejecting offers he got twitchy and asked to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Still; I'll be getting my Carroll 9 shirt in the mail any day now. That's some investment right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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