Begbie Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I just love this shit about NUFC. We needed a winger and a striker before this transfer window. Now we are a Winger and most likely a striker short after it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone. And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened. It's Jan 09 all over again, but worse. And some are actually defending Ashley. Laughable. There's a big difference between defending someone, and not blaming them for something that isn't their fault. You don't think we could have easily kept him? He wanted the money, man. Then he showed what a mercenary c*** he is and it's better we've got rid after seeing his true colours. Everyone of our players would rather play at Liverpool, shall we get rid of them too? Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Got to love the delusion of people thinking this money will be reinvested in the squad to a decent degree. I'll be stunned if we make any signing over £8m for the foreseeable future. A fee of £10m+ means big wages and then the rest of the squad want increases etc etc. Not going to happen. Yeah going on past trends is delusional. Where as pulling opinions out of your arse is sound logic. I am going on past trends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 So are we getting this paid in cash upfront or is it by dripeed over the next 5 years? We buy up front and sell in installments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Going on about how great the money is reminds me of people who were thrilled about the housing market going crazy five years ago "My house is worth three times what I paid for it!" Yeah, that's cos house prices have gone up, dickhead, unless you're planning on selling your house and not buying another one this doesn't really help you. The fact is that we now need a striker in a market where a 22 year old who's had half a good season costs £35m, we're not the most attractive prospect and no-one's going to give us a deal because they know we've got money in the bank. Spot on. The point a lot of people seem to be missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. I'd think they're most likely a bit wary of having spent £35M on a relatively unproven player rather than actually livid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SpinTheBlackCircle Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Don't really rate him that much tbh and absolutely ecstatic with the fee, i'm just furious at the tiny amount of time we now have to get a replacement. Dont worry, Marlon Harewood is spotted at SJP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone. And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened. It's Jan 09 all over again, but worse. And some are actually defending Ashley. Laughable. There's a big difference between defending someone, and not blaming them for something that isn't their fault. You don't think we could have easily kept him? He wanted the money, man. Then he showed what a mercenary c*** he is and it's better we've got rid after seeing his true colours. Everyone of our players would rather play at Liverpool, shall we get rid of them too? They haven't put transfer requests in though. Big difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone. And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened. It's Jan 09 all over again, but worse. And some are actually defending Ashley. Laughable. There's a big difference between defending someone, and not blaming them for something that isn't their fault. You don't think we could have easily kept him? He wanted the money, man. He also rejected Liverpool's bid. If he wanted it that badly, he wouldn't have rejected it. Nonsense. It's called getting the best deal. Divint man. Next you will be telling them Santa is not real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I just love this shit about NUFC. We needed a winger and a striker before this transfer window. Now we are a Winger and most likely a striker short after it. Couldn't fucking make it up could you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Just watching the pictures of Carroll arriving at Liverpool in a chopper then his car being mobbed by scousers. As if he was forced into this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone. And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened. It's Jan 09 all over again, but worse. And some are actually defending Ashley. Laughable. There's a big difference between defending someone, and not blaming them for something that isn't their fault. You don't think we could have easily kept him? He wanted the money, man. Then he showed what a mercenary c*** he is and it's better we've got rid after seeing his true colours. Everyone of our players would rather play at Liverpool, shall we get rid of them too? Well said. Difference is that Liverpool haven't offered a crazy amount of money for the others. Fuck this is shit man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone. And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened. It's Jan 09 all over again, but worse. And some are actually defending Ashley. Laughable. There's a big difference between defending someone, and not blaming them for something that isn't their fault. You don't think we could have easily kept him? He wanted the money, man. He also rejected Liverpool's bid. If he wanted it that badly, he wouldn't have rejected it. Nonsense. It's called getting the best deal. Divint man. Next you will be telling them Santa is not real. And you'll be telling me the Queen drove a motorcycle into the side of Diana's car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 So are we getting this paid in cash upfront or is it by dripeed over the next 5 years? We buy up front and sell in installments. True story Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone. And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened. It's Jan 09 all over again, but worse. And some are actually defending Ashley. Laughable. There's a big difference between defending someone, and not blaming them for something that isn't their fault. You don't think we could have easily kept him? He wanted the money, man. He also rejected Liverpool's bid. If he wanted it that badly, he wouldn't have rejected it. Nonsense. It's called getting the best deal. Divint man. Next you will be telling them Santa is not real. And you'll be telling me the Queen drove a motorcycle into the side of Diana's car. No I wont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 So surreal to see Andy Carroll £35m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 do people think if carroll hadn't put in a transfer request that the transfer would never have happened? seems obvious that the club were actively negotiating but not budging from a high valuation. carroll's just forced their hand after getting itchy feet about time running out, but you dont spend the entire day negotiating with a buying club if you have no intention of selling. the stuff the liverpool journo leaked about bid amounts suggests Ashley was trying to start something of an auction. I think Carroll is like every other player and had a price that the club would have always accepted. That doesn't change that it looks like we knocked Liverpool back until Carroll forced the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hope he breaks his fucking leg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 providing the money goes back into the team come the summer. http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3312/youfunnykidyoutellfunny.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluegeordie Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Would anyone expect us to sign a young talent with only partially realised potential for 35 million quid? No? Then, as hard as it is to swallow, why should we expect to keep such a player, even if he is "homegrown" and supposedly "one of us"? This is business, not a boy's own annual. Imo, it makes sense to take this sort of crazy money, and then to invest it in order to deepen the squad. I know it's not what big clubs do, but - news flash - we're NOT a big club ... at the moment. Providing we can maintain our PL status this season, and then invest the funds wisely over the summer, this sale can be used to consolidate a top 6 place in the PL in seasons to come, and from there the move to "big club" status can be plotted. Is it not possible that from a bigger picture perspective, Andy Carroll might have done the best thing he could have done for NUFC - that is, to bolster our 2011-12 EPL war chest by 35 million quid (substantially more than we would have been likely to get for him in the summer)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Andy was considering leaving until his agent tells him this morning that NUFC look to be serious about weighing offers for him from Liverpool and Tottenham and that he may have to put in a transfer request in order to get the 2x-3x salary increase that he'd probably get. I firmly believe he was happy at our club and willing to stay, but when the club looked so eager to shop him around, I think he realized he had to do what was best for himself in an uncertain situation, and in order to guarantee his payday, was willing to submit the transfer request to make sure he got it. Its incredible that this scenario, which is you're opinion not fact, leaves Carroll completely blameless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hope he breaks his f***ing leg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 this will cover our spending for next 5-6 windows folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 this will cover our spending for next 5-6 windows folks. Let's just hope we don't sign anyone good and get attached to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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