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West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll


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I reckon this is 50-50 Ashley & Carroll btw.

 

Carroll praying we'd accept a move so he could go before handing in the transfer request.

Ashley playing "chicken" with Spurs & Liverpool praying that Carroll would request a transfer so he could sell.

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All these conspiracy theories are hilarious.

 

Andy fancies himself a top player who should be earning top money at a top club. He became aware that Liverpool were in for him and put in a transfer request. It's as simple as that.

 

And why not? The only people that Carroll should be loyal to are himself and his family. If they can ultimately have a better life because he made this move, then all the power to him. Nobody on here would act any differently. Time to move on.

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Tiote and Enrique will be agitating for moves sooner rather than later. Today sends out a hugely negative message to our current playing staff that the club has very little ambition in chasing success.

 

Exactly. The circumstances don't even matter.

 

indeed. all about the bigger picture. Given, N'Zogbia, Milner, Bassong, Carroll. the pattern has now been set. I think it is reasonable to guess that this time next year or even in the summer we will be having this same conversation about someone like Tiote or Enrique. They'll have caught the eye of a bigger club, we'll have negotiated hard for a big fee, and maybe they'll have put in a transfer request to escape an unambitious club with haphazard ownership. and the same cretins will come out and defend ashley and say "But Tiote/Enrique/Barton/Ben Arfa requested a transfer."

 

Do i blame Ashley for taking £35m rising to £40m? No, it's a great offer.

Do i blame Carroll for putting in a request and moving? No, it's a great opportunity for him and we're not exactly an enticing proposition.

 

However that shouldn't obscure the fact that under Ashley's tenure he's created a club that players like carroll want to escape from at the first sign of a better offer.

 

And let's be honest here, had the club not wanted to sell Carroll, then no matter what Carroll wants, he would've been going nowhere.

 

The club negotiated with liverpool all day, cancelled press conferences and so on - it seems fair to assume that they spent that time negotiating for the best price, knocking back the lower bids saying "not good enough" rather than"not for sale". some people are acting as if the only reason Carroll is going to Liverpool is because he put a transfer request in which seems, frankly, deluded. that happening just rubber stamped or speeded up the process, and gave the club a convenient excuse to take some heat off them.

 

As always, good post.

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indeed. all about the bigger picture. Given, N'Zogbia, Milner, Bassong, Carroll. the pattern has now been set. I think it is reasonable to guess that this time next year or even in the summer we will be having this same conversation about someone like Tiote or Enrique. They'll have caught the eye of a bigger club, we'll have negotiated hard for a big fee, and maybe they'll have put in a transfer request to escape an unambitious club with haphazard ownership. and the same cretins will come out and defend ashley and say "But Tiote/Enrique/Barton/Ben Arfa requested a transfer."

 

Do i blame Ashley for taking £35m rising to £40m? No, it's a great offer.

Do i blame Carroll for putting in a request and moving? No, it's a great opportunity for him and we're not exactly an enticing proposition.

 

However that shouldn't obscure the fact that under Ashley's tenure he's created a club that players like carroll want to escape from at the first sign of a better offer.

 

And let's be honest here, had the club not wanted to sell Carroll, then no matter what Carroll wants, he would've been going nowhere.

 

The club negotiated with liverpool all day, cancelled press conferences and so on - it seems fair to assume that they spent that time negotiating for the best price, knocking back the lower bids saying "not good enough" rather than"not for sale". some people are acting as if the only reason Carroll is going to Liverpool is because he put a transfer request in which seems, frankly, deluded. that happening just rubber stamped or speeded up the process, and gave the club a convenient excuse to take some heat off them.

 

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this whole thread today is a f***ing facepalm

 

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Who fucking cares about the smallprint:

 

Carroll has put in a transfer request; he evidently wants to leave NUFC and join Liverpool.

 

Ashley has accepted a bid from Liverpool; he evidently is happy to accept the money and sell Carroll to Liverpool.

 

They are both cunts. The rest is semantics, hearsay and obfuscation.

 

Chelsea get Torres, Liverpool get Suarez and Carroll and we are left holding the baby.

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