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West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll


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The debate is whether January was an exception to the rule and why the argument that "those who are now saying let's see what happens in the summer will say the same thing come September 1" is just bollocks or is the January transfer window representative of our other transfer windows. Like I said try and focus on what is being debated. Even Colocho is doing better than you which really says it all  :lol:

 

you've yet to prove to me that it isn't btw, you've not addressed the old windows since ashley took the club

 

also i don't think january was "representative" in that selling carroll and not replacing him was a massive blow to the club as a whole so it had more of an effect than selling a single player should have done...but it was representative in that we started it needing to add a striker and ended it losing one :lol:

 

what's representative of ashley's dealings in the transfer market, which you seem to have trouble grasping yourself, is that:

 

we simply have not progressed as a football club under mike ashley, the best thing you could say is we got rid of a lot of bullshit high earning wasters, shame it took a relegation to achieve that

 

i'm proposing we'll end the window with maybe a couple of problems addressed but certainly by no means enough, once again, and people will be looking to the next window for them to be fixed

 

it's not hard - look at what we need to do, who we need to/will ship out: smith, guthrie, loven, campbell, rout, perch, raylor, xisco, because they don't or can't contribute enough to NUFC

 

how many of them will go and be replaced by quality?  will we get a backup left back?  will we get a top class striker?  even just one...

 

seriously, what's your prediction 'cause mine is pretty clear and it's based on MA's history in the market...one thing i'll give you is that he's had 2 "big" summer windows out of 3 but only one of those had a decent net spend (his first at the club) and the other one we lost milner to counter some of the spending on colo etc.

 

i started the whole "next summer" thing on the back of a post about spurs selling their best players in order to build a squad and push on, which they've done (oh and they've also had to spend a lot more than they took in through transfer fees only), there's really little chance of this happening under MA imo which makes selling carroll pointless if we don't use that money to progress, and we won't progress with a strike force of shola/best/loven/ranger let alone anywhere else on the pitch

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Some of the points are valid. He's going to find it tough next year, that price tag can and has eaten away at players far more experienced and better than carroll

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If we were to buy him back, what would happen in relation to the sell on clause? Say we buy him for £20million, would he only cost £15million in reality? :lol:. Scam the bastards!

don't try to fuck around with ashley he'll just rip you off  :pow:

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He's had one good game in 4 and a half months. That's pretty much the top and bottom of it injured or not injured.

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Can't believe some of you didn't catch on this was Ashley's plan all along.

 

Sell for £35m realising the high expectations he was going to have at Liverpool and that fans would get on his back early on, which will result in Liverpool panicking and selling him back to us in the summer for half the price.

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Early season form was as a result of lack of scrutiny against him

 

When you suddenly become the worlds 8th most expensive player you are going to get found out very quickly

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Early season form was as a result of lack of scrutiny against him

 

When you suddenly become the worlds 8th most expensive player you are going to get found out very quickly

 

We're just going to have to wait and see.

 

Hopefully this time next year he's scored no more than 10 goals

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