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tried to have a discussion with a mackem on Saturday night about Andy Carroll.  Admittedly he was bias as fuck against 'wor Andy' but the point I tried to put across was about Carroll in relation to 'the Crouch option'.  Crouch is forever spoken about as 'giving us [England] something different' and/or 'providing an alternative'.

 

So, says I, 4 England strikers for a squad, 'Rooney, Defoe, Crouch, Bent, yes?'  'Yes' replies mackem.  'OK' I continue, 'but what if Crouch is unavailable for selection?  Who is picked instead?'  With Bent already picked, mackem begins to fumble around for answers.  'Do you agree we'd still need the 'alternative option' Crouch provides?' I ask.  'Yeah' replies mackem, while trying to swallow a mouthful of cheesy chips.  'OK, so who?' I ask again.  'Whey....Kevin Davies probably' he answers.  'At 33' I ask, 'he is our answer, the future?'  'Well for the time being' I'm told.  'But what about 2012?  He'll be 35 or so, and 37 for 2014 in Brazll'.  I'm put in my place by mackem, 'we'll sort that when the time comes.  Whoever it is, it shouldn't be Carroll!'.

 

 

I wasn't implying pick Carroll now, but I think its only a matter of time.  There's not a great deal of excellent English striking talent about, and for as long as we use Crouch as an example of 'offering something different' with his height, it will only take an injury to him for Carroll to be selected, if he isn't on Saturday night.

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tried to have a discussion with a mackem on Saturday night about Andy Carroll.  Admittedly he was bias as fuck against 'wor Andy' but the point I tried to put across was about Carroll in relation to 'the Crouch option'.  Crouch is forever spoken about as 'giving us [England] something different' and/or 'providing an alternative'.

 

So, says I, 4 England strikers for a squad, 'Rooney, Defoe, Crouch, Bent, yes?'  'Yes' replies mackem.  'OK' I continue, 'but what if Crouch is unavailable for selection?  Who is picked instead?'  With Bent already picked, mackem begins to fumble around for answers.  'Do you agree we'd still need the 'alternative option' Crouch provides?' I ask.  'Yeah' replies mackem, while trying to swallow a mouthful of cheesy chips.  'OK, so who?' I ask again.  'Whey....Kevin Davies probably' he answers.  'At 33' I ask, 'he is our answer, the future?'  'Well for the time being' I'm told.  'But what about 2012?  He'll be 35 or so, and 37 for 2014 in Brazll'.  I'm put in my place by mackem, 'we'll sort that when the time comes.  Whoever it is, it shouldn't be Carroll!'.

 

 

I wasn't implying pick Carroll now, but I think its only a matter of time.  There's not a great deal of excellent English striking talent about, and for as long as we use Crouch as an example of 'offering something different' with his height, it will only take an injury to him for Carroll to be selected, if he isn't on Saturday night.

 

Carroll is a better option that Crouch because he's is actually good in the air. Crouch shrinks about two foot when required to jump for a header.

 

Not that you'll get a Tackem to admit that mind.

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tried to have a discussion with a mackem on Saturday night about Andy Carroll.  Admittedly he was bias as f*** against 'wor Andy' but the point I tried to put across was about Carroll in relation to 'the Crouch option'.  Crouch is forever spoken about as 'giving us [England] something different' and/or 'providing an alternative'.

 

So, says I, 4 England strikers for a squad, 'Rooney, Defoe, Crouch, Bent, yes?'  'Yes' replies mackem.  'OK' I continue, 'but what if Crouch is unavailable for selection?  Who is picked instead?'  With Bent already picked, mackem begins to fumble around for answers.  'Do you agree we'd still need the 'alternative option' Crouch provides?' I ask.  'Yeah' replies mackem, while trying to swallow a mouthful of cheesy chips.  'OK, so who?' I ask again.  'Whey....Kevin Davies probably' he answers.  'At 33' I ask, 'he is our answer, the future?'  'Well for the time being' I'm told.  'But what about 2012?  He'll be 35 or so, and 37 for 2014 in Brazll'.  I'm put in my place by mackem, 'we'll sort that when the time comes.  Whoever it is, it shouldn't be CarrollPlay for the mags!'.

 

 

I wasn't implying pick Carroll now, but I think its only a matter of time.  There's not a great deal of excellent English striking talent about, and for as long as we use Crouch as an example of 'offering something different' with his height, it will only take an injury to him for Carroll to be selected, if he isn't on Saturday night.

 

What he meant  :facepalm:

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Guest Kenton Magpie

As good as Carroll has been for us this year I reckon a England call so soon will go to the lads head and with that will come a number of issues on and off the pitch

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As good as Carroll has been for us this year I reckon a England call so soon will go to the lads head and with that will come a number of issues on and off the pitch

 

I agree. I think his act needs to mature on the pitch as well. He can be a bit naive in his decision-making and still has a bit to learn.

 

But he has the talent to be an international player. Obviously.

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Do you think he would be the type of player to leave the club, if somebody like Man Utd or Chelsea came calling?

 

If he wasn't a Geordie I would be terrified of losing him in the next few years, but because of that I think we've got a good chance of keeping him.

 

Also, we keep fearing that a number of our other players are likely to be targets for better sides (Tiote, Colo, Enrique, Ben Arfa etc), but IMO if we add to them seinsibly we should start to think of ourselves as one of those 'better sides'.

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If he's already getting into the England squad while playing at Newcastle, why move elsewhere?  A lot of players will move to the "big four" to try and get call-ups - he's already getting his.

CL/win trophies. Thankfully, he's from Newcastle and is a supporter and most importantly has the no.9 shirt, something that won't be given up easily.

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Why is Roeder getting involved?!

 

Did Carroll not start at the academy when Roeder was in charge?

 

Probably thinks he 'discovered' him, so can comment on him now.

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Sorry if it has been addressed before but what of his bail conditions? Will there be special dispensation for him to travel to and stay in London with the England squad?

 

He did get permission to stay in the team hotel before the derby, so maybe it has been considered.

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