Ronaldo Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 The former. Wow, you've gone from completely underestimating his potential to vastly overestimating his ability. A testament to his development certainly, but also to you bipolarity.. It's nothing to do with estimation of his ability, dickweed. He's performed better than any other striker in the league this season. And the vast majority of football fans nationwide would agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Just noticed that AC has been picked by 49% of the teams at Fantasy Football League. At this rate he's going to cost a small fortune next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 The former. Wow, you've gone from completely underestimating his potential to vastly overestimating his ability. A testament to his development certainly, but also to you bipolarity.. It's nothing to do with estimation of his ability, dickweed. He's performed better than any other striker in the league this season. And the vast majority of football fans nationwide would agree. The fact he's currently performing better than the likes of Drogba or Torres does not make him a better striker ("the best center forward in England"). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Doesn't make him better overall, but he's been far better than those two this season. I did use the words 'at the moment' in fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I don't think people are saying he's a better player than Rooney or Drogba. But so far this season, he's the striker who's in better form and who has consistently put in the highest performances. Obviously as the cliche goes form is temporary, class is permanent and it's a question of whether he's got the class to sustain the form and put himself up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Doesn't make him better overall, but he's been far better than those two this season. I did use the words 'at the moment' in fairness. So, since you seem to be involved in another discussion on an in form player where you seem to be much more level headed, would you classify Tiote as the best defensive midfielder in England at this point in time, or would you agree that would be a bit of a knee jerk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I don't think people are saying he's a better player than Rooney or Drogba. But so far this season, he's the striker who's in better form and who has consistently put in the highest performances. Obviously as the cliche goes form is temporary, class is permanent and it's a question of whether he's got the class to sustain the form and put himself up there. maybe time to take drogba out the equation. he'll still show the odd touch of class but he's not going to return to what he was. my crystal ball has chelsea buying lukaku in ajnuary or the summer and using his hero,drogba, to nurse him through his first season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Wouldn't write him off too soon, last season was probably his best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Doesn't make him better overall, but he's been far better than those two this season. I did use the words 'at the moment' in fairness. So, since you seem to be involved in another discussion on an in form player where you seem to be much more level headed, would you classify Tiote as the best defensive midfielder in England at this point in time, or would you agree that would be a bit of a knee jerk? Tiote hasn't been head and shoulders the best midfielder in England for the past 4 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Doesn't make him better overall, but he's been far better than those two this season. I did use the words 'at the moment' in fairness. So, since you seem to be involved in another discussion on an in form player where you seem to be much more level headed, would you classify Tiote as the best defensive midfielder in England at this point in time, or would you agree that would be a bit of a knee jerk? Tiote hasn't been head and shoulders the best midfielder in England for the past 4 months. Neither has Carroll been "head and shoulders the best center forward" in that period mate... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I would say it's been Carroll and Tevez who have been in the best form so far this season. As for the overall player, from what I've seen, Gareth Bale. Another one who was written off. Strange game, this football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I would say it's been Carroll and Tevez who have been in the best form so far this season. As for the overall player, from what I've seen, Gareth Bale. Another one who was written off. Strange game, this football. You can add Elmander to that list as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Wouldn't write him off too soon, last season was probably his best. he's now 32 and had malaria. the touch will be there, the legs, strength and eventually desire will ebb away. thought he was poor on sunday and has been whenever i've watched him this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I would say it's been Carroll and Tevez who have been in the best form so far this season. As for the overall player, from what I've seen, Gareth Bale. Another one who was written off. Strange game, this football. You can add Elmander to that list as well. Coloccini and Enrique too in terms of players who were seen as flops in the media. I'm sure there are more too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I would say it's been Carroll and Tevez who have been in the best form so far this season. As for the overall player, from what I've seen, Gareth Bale. Another one who was written off. Strange game, this football. You can add Elmander to that list as well. And Samir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I would say it's been Carroll and Tevez who have been in the best form so far this season. As for the overall player, from what I've seen, Gareth Bale. Another one who was written off. Strange game, this football. You can add Elmander to that list as well. And Samir. Who'd written him off? At least to the extent that Elmander and Bale was written off about this time last year. IIRC he had been out injured for pretty much the entire season up to this point, but when he did play he looked canny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I would say it's been Carroll and Tevez who have been in the best form so far this season. As for the overall player, from what I've seen, Gareth Bale. Another one who was written off. Strange game, this football. You can add Elmander to that list as well. And Samir. Who'd written him off? At least to the extent that Elmander and Bale was written off about this time last year. IIRC he had been out injured for pretty much the entire season up to this point, but when he did play he looked canny. I was just adding to the list of players who've been in form this season. Perhaps I misread the discussion. As you were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Doesn't make him better overall, but he's been far better than those two this season. I did use the words 'at the moment' in fairness. So, since you seem to be involved in another discussion on an in form player where you seem to be much more level headed, would you classify Tiote as the best defensive midfielder in England at this point in time, or would you agree that would be a bit of a knee jerk? Tiote hasn't been head and shoulders the best midfielder in England for the past 4 months. Neither has Carroll been "head and shoulders the best center forward" in that period mate... He most certainly has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Carroll has been the best forward in England so far this season, without a doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Doesn't make him better overall, but he's been far better than those two this season. I did use the words 'at the moment' in fairness. So, since you seem to be involved in another discussion on an in form player where you seem to be much more level headed, would you classify Tiote as the best defensive midfielder in England at this point in time, or would you agree that would be a bit of a knee jerk? Tiote hasn't been head and shoulders the best midfielder in England for the past 4 months. Neither has Carroll been "head and shoulders the best center forward" in that period mate... He most certainly has. We'll have to agree to disagree.. As other have said, the same could be said for Elmander at Bolton. I'll wait until he's consistently proven it before proclaiming Carroll to be the best center forward in the country.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I'm not sure he's been that much better than Tevez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Can't think of anyone who has played better than Carroll this season, personally (and I've watched a fair bit of football this season) - closest would be Nasri - but he was out for a few weeks and hasn't been as good IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 People are underestimating that he has hit 9 league goals, despite playing for a side lacking in creativity, and without the need for penalties to boost his tally. Add to this his assists and overall game, I'd say he's definitely been the best forward in the league so far this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Carroll's been an absolute revelation this season. He's developed so much in the last 12 months and is a genuine threat for any defence in the country atm. He's got 9 PL goals so far and will keep on scoring because no-one can handle him in this form. He's been utterly superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Carroll's been an absolute revelation this season. He's developed so much in the last 12 months and is a genuine threat for any defence in the country atm. He's got 9 PL goals so far and will keep on scoring because no-one can handle him in this form. He's been utterly superb. to be fair he done it the back end of last season, it was only the thought of who we were palying that stopped us thinking it. for me the goal at doncaster was when i thought he's the real deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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