Guest BooBoo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 We say we'll sell for £35m, he is upset by this, we reject £35m bid, he hands in transfer request You're overusing that smilie tonight. Refrain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc Was is leaked that we'd take £35 million and why did we turn it down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 We say we'll sell for £35m, he is upset by this, we reject £35m bid, he hands in transfer request You're overusing that smilie tonight. Refrain. Because the whole suggestion that he didn't hand in a transfer request because he wanted to leave baffles me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 It was never released that we rejected 35m They said so on BBC Five Live at 5pm like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 He simply just had to say "no mike, I don't won't to leave". Handing in a transfer request makes absolutely no sense what so ever if he was going to be sold anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc Makes no sense at all. None whatsoever. "Shit, looks like the club are going to sell me. :-( QUICK! Hand in a trasfer request!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 So now its SSN fault for saying we'd sell for £35m, even though we then rejected that offer When is it Carroll's fault? it can't be carrolls fault, to many on here, nothing could ever be his fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc So why was a £35m bid rejected then.. It wasnt. They released that we rejected their 2nd offer & gave no details on what that was, we may well have accepted a 3rd by that point & been calming a backlash. Its common sense. Common sense?, really? Its common sense to say that we hadn't rejected a bid, because we probably, maybe, perhaps had accepted a third bid, so Carroll then asked to leave instead of just leaving and picking up his part of the transfer? That's common sense now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc So why was a £35m bid rejected then.. It wasnt. They released that we rejected their 2nd offer & gave no details on what that was, we may well have accepted a 3rd by that point & been calming a backlash. Its common sense. before or after the transfer request ? Before. Craig was already talking about how he still expected the deal was on & how we'd be spending the money in the summer. It was clearly all on still, people just got overexcited when we released that an offer had been rejected. It was never suggested that that was the end of it in any way atall, quite the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc Makes no sense at all. Its an absolute nonsense. Carroll will play the "I love the Toon, never wanted to leave" card but he's f***ed off for a massive pay hike. He'll rightly get a shed load of abuse. Totally agree. Just signed a 5 year contract here, realise he could potenially double/treble what he is on - slaps in a transfer request. simples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc What a load of bollocks. Funny that too, considering it was the BBC who reported that they believed Carroll wanted to move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 He had a five year deal with the club, he'd be in his full right to say "I don't want to go." if he didn't want to go on any level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trotheed Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/news/2010/11/28/newcastle-s-andy-carroll-reveals-he-is-indebted-to-toon-hero-alan-shearer-102039-22745526/ Dunno if this has been posted, from before the chelsea game. Didn't take him long to change his mind did it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewellander Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'm gutted at losing one of our top players, but if I try to thinking about it rationally, I don't know that I would have done it any differently if I was anyone in this situation. Carroll has had one good season in the Championship and less than half a good season in the Premiership, and Liverpool offered us £35m for him. He's far from a proven Premier League talent and his personal issues are extremely problematic. Honestly, Liverpool are taking a huge gamble. I can't imagine that anyone in Mike Ashley's position would turn down £35m for Carroll. Is Ashley doing what's best for Ashley? Potentially. But who can honestly say they would refuse that kind of ridiculous money? As for Carroll, he knows the writing is on the wall at NUFC. His ambitions obviously outstrip those of the club. Ashley and Pardew are looking to establish NUFC back in the top flight and aren't looking to challenge for European places and Andy feels that he wants more from his football career. Plus, he probably got offered a higher wage, and again, I don't know anyone who would turn down the kind of money that he likely got offered. Hopefully we move forward from this. We're probably in a good position to stay up even without him, and hopefully we get some new signings in the summer with some of this money. If not...let's just keep supporting the players. This is life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 it can't be carrolls fault, to many on here, nothing could ever be his fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc So why was a £35m bid rejected then.. It wasnt. They released that we rejected their 2nd offer & gave no details on what that was, we may well have accepted a 3rd by that point & been calming a backlash. Its common sense. before or after the transfer request ? Before. Craig was already talking about how he still expected the deal was on & how we'd be spending the money in the summer. It was clearly all on still, people just got overexcited when we released that an offer had been rejected. It was never suggested that that was the end of it in any way atall, quite the opposite. but why the transfer request ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Andy Carroll: £35m Torres: £50m Arsenal's first XI: Szczesny, Sagna, Djourou, Vermaelen, Clichy, Fabregas, Song, Wilshere, Walcott, Nasri, van Persie: £44.25m Arsenal always need two games to beat lower league teams. Tbf to Weg you can see why he never bids big when you look at how Reyes, Wiltord Arshavin & Jeffers worked out long term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 He doesn't look like a guy gutted to be leaving btw. He f***ing loves this, he wanted to go to Liverpool/ He's just swapping one has been on the road to nowhere club for a marginally better has been on the road to nowhere club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YANKEEBLEEDSMAGPIE Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't think Andy was considering leaving until his agent tells him this morning that NUFC look to be serious about weighing offers for him from Liverpool and Tottenham and that he may have to put in a transfer request in order to get the 2x-3x salary increase that he'd probably get. I firmly believe he was happy at our club and willing to stay, but when the club looked so eager to shop him around, I think he realized he had to do what was best for himself in an uncertain situation, and in order to guarantee his payday, was willing to submit the transfer request to make sure he got it. Its incredible that this scenario, which is you're opinion not fact, leaves Carroll completely blameless. Correct, it is my opinion. It's speculation on a situation that simply cannot be credibly taken at face value. For Andy, I believe that money talks and in the end, once he sees that he has a chance to win trophies at 3x the pay, he's going to do it. When he sees the club willing to sell him, it reiterates that the club aren't serious about winning or spending. Makes the decision to put in the transfer request much easier. For me, the blame is primarily on Ashley, less on Carroll. He has no intention on getting us to European football, which should be his goal. The business model he believes in of being a shoestring club that develops young/low-wage players and selling them off may be good for his bottom-line, but for any fans who are serious about competing for Europe and building a club that aims for winning shiny silver things that go in nice glass cabinets, you should be aware very much by now that Michael Ashley does not share your ambition. How the f*** is Carroll blameless. He got a new f***ing contract in November. Shearer could have joined Man Utd at various times when he was at NUFC to be the richest footballer on the planet and didn't. Carroll's current contract is peanuts on what he's about to sign for LFC, I'd bet. Shearer's case is a different because we were already a top team at the time, and he preferred to stay with NUFC since we were good and he was reaching the latter stage of his career. Plus while he might have been "The Richest" at Manure, he still was getting paid a princely wage at NUFC. In any case, I don't think it's really an argument to say "Well, Shearer stayed!" because their situations are not very similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power NUFC Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 this offer was to good to turn down,i just hope that carroll sucks with liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfcmagpies Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What the fuck happened overnight? Without reading 100 pages, how did this unfold? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Before. Craig was already talking about how he still expected the deal was on & how we'd be spending the money in the summer. It was clearly all on still, people just got overexcited when we released that an offer had been rejected. It was never suggested that that was the end of it in any way atall, quite the opposite. David Craig has told more bullshit than anybody on deadline days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 #Carroll wanted to stay at #NUFC. Handed in request after leaked they would sell him for £35m. Worth remembering B4 making JUDAS banners from danwalkerbbc What a load of bollocks. Funny that too, considering it was the BBC who reported that they believed Carroll wanted to move. Yep, that was on the radio at 5pm too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Have to say I'm surprised by the Liverpool fans reaction. Carroll is an emerging talent, but I have to say as a Liverpool fan I would be quite nervous about this move. Very interesting to see how this all plays out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest uma Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 think carroll been told to had a transfer req by the club .so theres not as much backlash on ashley etc.what uz think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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