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On March 22nd 2010 he was punched in the Jaw by fellow Jawdee Cunt, Andy 'the knuckledragging Gypsy' Carroll in an argument as to who was the thickest twat in the Newcastle United first team. Sources indicate that there was minimal contact to Taylor but still he fell to the floor, there has also been unconfirmed rumours that Steed Malbranque had passed the training ground moments before and Taylor in natiral reaction on seeing the skillful Frencman fell to the floor as if shot at by a sniper

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Taylor_(footballer)

 

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On March 22nd 2010 he was punched in the Jaw by fellow Jawdee Cunt, Andy 'the knuckledragging Gypsy' Carroll in an argument as to who was the thickest twat in the Newcastle United first team. Sources indicate that there was minimal contact to Taylor but still he fell to the floor, there has also been unconfirmed rumours that Steed Malbranque had passed the training ground moments before and Taylor in natiral reaction on seeing the skillful Frencman fell to the floor as if shot at by a sniper

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Taylor_(footballer)

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

Natiral. Frencman.

 

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We need to come down hard on him imo... Getting the right attitude is going to be important if he's going to have a top-flight career and we have to stamp out these tendencies of his when we still can.

 

Taking him out of the first team for a while wouldn't be a bad idea. Shola's coming back soon and relying on him in this division isn't the worst thing in the world.

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These incidents involving Barton and now Carroll are symptomatic of the general lack of discipline in society and in particular, the acceptance of such behaviour by many of the general public because they see it go unpunished(or hardly punished)in the courts.

 

Of course, we are not yet party to the whole picture(and probably won't ever be), so cannot blame either player totally for this incident - however, IF Carroll is responsible, this cannot be allowed to continue.

 

Human Rights Lawyers - and Laws-(the scourge of the modern age)who go on to become politicians are largely to blame for the lack of severe punishment which would otherwise act as a deterrent for such incidents ; footballers think they are immune from public censure because they earn far more than the fans who watch them and the limp-wristed penalties from the Prem & FA(a result of a cosy relationship with the Players' Union)do nothing to make them think again.

 

Carroll is a potentially good striker who is going to wreck his career with this sort of behaviour, just as Barton has - the people who suffer as a result are the fans who, if he is sentenced to jail, will possibly see their side struggle without him, not to mention the club and management who will take the rap for any fall-off in results. NUFC are not in a position to compete for top strikers, even if Ashley were to give the manager the funds, so the chances are that Carroll's absence will damage the club's prospects even more than Barton's has(you can get midfielders much more easily than forwards).

 

We can only hope that notihing happens before the club get promoted because results would have been much worse without Carroll's goals and presence up front.

 

This would be his last chance as far as I am concerned - any repeat of this behaviour and I would list him - but only when the club has achieved its objectives.

Carroll's interests, after he leaves NUFC, are of no concern to the club ; the club's interests come first and until we are run as the Top sides are(and players are sold either if they get past it or are a problem, no matter WHO they are, we will be viewed as second-rate by all the top sides - and rightly so.

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Take a step back every one screaming for Carroll's head. He's the best striker we have right now and is one of the key reasons we've been doing so well. Hughton could do a Souness and get rid, a la Bellamy, or he can manage the situation. Hughton will plump for the latter and diffuse this.

 

Steven Taylor would have had as much to do with this as Andy Carroll, he's not stupid. You don't wind up someone who is obviously from the Joey Barton school of anger management and I can imagine Hughton will be just as livid with Taylor too.

 

Don't hate on the lad for this, he is very young and is maturing in terms of his personality and learning adulthood let alone football in the first team of his home town club. Give the lad a break, get behind him, lets hope Hughton can steer this anger towards the opposition instead.

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Take a step back every one screaming for Carroll's head. He's the best striker we have right now and is one of the key reasons we've been doing so well. Hughton could do a Souness and get rid, a la Bellamy, or he can manage the situation. Hughton will plump for the latter and diffuse this.

 

Steven Taylor would have had as much to do with this as Andy Carroll, he's not stupid. You don't wind up someone who is obviously from the Joey Barton school of anger management and I can imagine Hughton will be just as livid with Taylor too.

 

Don't hate on the lad for this, he is very young and is maturing in terms of his personality and learning adulthood let alone football in the first team of his home town club. Give the lad a break, get behind him, lets hope Hughton can steer this anger towards the opposition instead.

 

In any other job you would be sacked on the spot for decking someone and breaking their jaw while at work.  In fact you would struggle to get another job and on top would probably be arrested as it would get reported by the person you punched.  Fact.

 

In magic football world you can deck your colleagues and break their jaw and everything is ok.  You give the lad a pat on the back and tell him to stop being a silly sausage! glassing people in clubs and breaking team mates jaws is just a phase of course! I mean after all he's only young and still maturing! in fact it should be expected to happen at some point, after all there's a lot of young lads in football.  Taylor's jaw will get better and both players will be rewarded with £40k a week contracts each to end the feud.  All is well in magic football world.

 

Nice quote there mate.  I'm not shocked by footballers acting like twats, but I'm still shocked that people can gloss over it and water it down with ease just because the people involved are fairly good at kicking a football around.

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Enough is enough now like. 2 months ago 90% on this forum would have been happy for him to get sacked.

 

As it happens, a few goals against the likes of Scunthorpe United convinces people otherwise. Sell him in the summer.

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TOON star Steven Taylor's jaw was broken after a shameful training ground bust-up with team-mate Andy Carroll.

Owner Mike Ashley has launched a probe into the row which has cast a dark shadow over Newcastle's promotion bid.

 

It is now understood defender Taylor, having just come back from injury, will miss the rest of the season.

 

Carroll, 21, was believed to be in hospital last night receiving treatment to a hand injury.

 

 

 

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2903192/Taylor-breaks-jaw-in-Carroll-bust-up.html#ixzz0iz9xyLQV

 

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These incidents involving Barton and now Carroll are symptomatic of the general lack of discipline in society and in particular, the acceptance of such behaviour by many of the general public because they see it go unpunished(or hardly punished)in the courts.

 

Of course, we are not yet party to the whole picture(and probably won't ever be), so cannot blame either player totally for this incident - however, IF Carroll is responsible, this cannot be allowed to continue.

 

Human Rights Lawyers - and Laws-(the scourge of the modern age)who go on to become politicians are largely to blame for the lack of severe punishment which would otherwise act as a deterrent for such incidents ; footballers think they are immune from public censure because they earn far more than the fans who watch them and the limp-wristed penalties from the Prem & FA(a result of a cosy relationship with the Players' Union)do nothing to make them think again.

 

Carroll is a potentially good striker who is going to wreck his career with this sort of behaviour, just as Barton has - the people who suffer as a result are the fans who, if he is sentenced to jail, will possibly see their side struggle without him, not to mention the club and management who will take the rap for any fall-off in results. NUFC are not in a position to compete for top strikers, even if Ashley were to give the manager the funds, so the chances are that Carroll's absence will damage the club's prospects even more than Barton's has(you can get midfielders much more easily than forwards).

 

We can only hope that notihing happens before the club get promoted because results would have been much worse without Carroll's goals and presence up front.

 

This would be his last chance as far as I am concerned - any repeat of this behaviour and I would list him - but only when the club has achieved its objectives.

Carroll's interests, after he leaves NUFC, are of no concern to the club ; the club's interests come first and until we are run as the Top sides are(and players are sold either if they get past it or are a problem, no matter WHO they are, we will be viewed as second-rate by all the top sides - and rightly so.

 

???

 

Think that's a bit much.

 

There have been training ground bustups since time immemorial, young men with too much money and big egos playing in a business where their careers are short and passions run high.

 

FFS, I've had heated arguments with people on my 5-a-side team, it's just a part of football. Obviously it never comes to blows, but the A-Train and S Taylor are both nob heads, let's face it.

 

Nothing to do with 'lily-livered liberals™' or 'political correctness gone mad®'.

 

You're right about the effects though, it's the clulb/fans that will suffer.

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It doesn't help that the local media make them out to be gods. I mean, Carroll scores gets his 11th and 12th league goals of the season against a shocking Scunthorpe team and that absolute w*****, Lee Ryder makes a comment about 'Mr Capello'. Taylor has been made out to be the english Nesta for some time, even though in reality, he's only just acceptable as a premier league player.

 

At some point the hype is believed.

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It doesn't help that the local media make them out to be gods. I mean, Carroll scores gets his 11th and 12th league goals of the season against a shocking Scunthorpe team and that absolute w*****, Lee Ryder makes a comment about 'Mr Capello'. Taylor has been made out to be the english Nesta for some time, even though in reality, he's only just acceptable as a premier league player.

 

At some point the hype is believed.

 

Pushing it tbh.

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If this is true, I can't see why he is supposed to be allowed to play for us ever again.

 

Sure you could argue that Barton has done the same kind of things, but never to one of his own teammates (atleast not at our club). Carroll might be our second most inform striker at the moment, but hell, I'd rather give Ranger a chance than play a guy who has fallen so low to break the jaw of a teammate at the training ground.

 

Clubs and manager need to take stronger measure at this type of stuff, even in our society this is happening to often. Its ridiculous. If these stories are true, kick him out. He's not that good anyways...

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These incidents involving Barton and now Carroll are symptomatic of the general lack of discipline in society and in particular, the acceptance of such behaviour by many of the general public because they see it go unpunished(or hardly punished)in the courts.

 

Of course, we are not yet party to the whole picture(and probably won't ever be), so cannot blame either player totally for this incident - however, IF Carroll is responsible, this cannot be allowed to continue.

 

Human Rights Lawyers - and Laws-(the scourge of the modern age)who go on to become politicians are largely to blame for the lack of severe punishment which would otherwise act as a deterrent for such incidents ; footballers think they are immune from public censure because they earn far more than the fans who watch them and the limp-wristed penalties from the Prem & FA(a result of a cosy relationship with the Players' Union)do nothing to make them think again.

 

Carroll is a potentially good striker who is going to wreck his career with this sort of behaviour, just as Barton has - the people who suffer as a result are the fans who, if he is sentenced to jail, will possibly see their side struggle without him, not to mention the club and management who will take the rap for any fall-off in results. NUFC are not in a position to compete for top strikers, even if Ashley were to give the manager the funds, so the chances are that Carroll's absence will damage the club's prospects even more than Barton's has(you can get midfielders much more easily than forwards).

 

We can only hope that notihing happens before the club get promoted because results would have been much worse without Carroll's goals and presence up front.

 

This would be his last chance as far as I am concerned - any repeat of this behaviour and I would list him - but only when the club has achieved its objectives.

Carroll's interests, after he leaves NUFC, are of no concern to the club ; the club's interests come first and until we are run as the Top sides are(and players are sold either if they get past it or are a problem, no matter WHO they are, we will be viewed as second-rate by all the top sides - and rightly so.

 

???

 

Think that's a bit much.

 

There have been training ground bustups since time immemorial, young men with too much money and big egos playing in a business where their careers are short and passions run high.

 

FFS, I've had heated arguments with people on my 5-a-side team, it's just a part of football. Obviously it never comes to blows, but the A-Train and S Taylor are both nob heads, let's face it.

 

Nothing to do with 'lily-livered liberals™' or 'political correctness gone mad®'.

 

You're right about the effects though, it's the clulb/fans that will suffer.

 

Sorry, but its EVERYTHING to do with 'lily-livered libs/political correctness' ; there is a general view among both lawmakers and Social services that a wrong-doer must have had a 'bad time', and therefore deserves 'compassion and rehabilitation', even when its blatantly obvious that the idiot concerned is simply mad, bad or acts like a spoilt child.

 

Until Judges(and Laws) once again make the punishment fit the crime, this sort of behaviour will continue to be seen as 'the norm'...esp for footballers.

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These incidents involving Barton and now Carroll are symptomatic of the general lack of discipline in society and in particular, the acceptance of such behaviour by many of the general public because they see it go unpunished(or hardly punished)in the courts.

 

Of course, we are not yet party to the whole picture(and probably won't ever be), so cannot blame either player totally for this incident - however, IF Carroll is responsible, this cannot be allowed to continue.

 

Human Rights Lawyers - and Laws-(the scourge of the modern age)who go on to become politicians are largely to blame for the lack of severe punishment which would otherwise act as a deterrent for such incidents ; footballers think they are immune from public censure because they earn far more than the fans who watch them and the limp-wristed penalties from the Prem & FA(a result of a cosy relationship with the Players' Union)do nothing to make them think again.

 

Carroll is a potentially good striker who is going to wreck his career with this sort of behaviour, just as Barton has - the people who suffer as a result are the fans who, if he is sentenced to jail, will possibly see their side struggle without him, not to mention the club and management who will take the rap for any fall-off in results. NUFC are not in a position to compete for top strikers, even if Ashley were to give the manager the funds, so the chances are that Carroll's absence will damage the club's prospects even more than Barton's has(you can get midfielders much more easily than forwards).

 

We can only hope that notihing happens before the club get promoted because results would have been much worse without Carroll's goals and presence up front.

 

This would be his last chance as far as I am concerned - any repeat of this behaviour and I would list him - but only when the club has achieved its objectives.

Carroll's interests, after he leaves NUFC, are of no concern to the club ; the club's interests come first and until we are run as the Top sides are(and players are sold either if they get past it or are a problem, no matter WHO they are, we will be viewed as second-rate by all the top sides - and rightly so.

 

???

 

Think that's a bit much.

 

There have been training ground bustups since time immemorial, young men with too much money and big egos playing in a business where their careers are short and passions run high.

 

FFS, I've had heated arguments with people on my 5-a-side team, it's just a part of football. Obviously it never comes to blows, but the A-Train and S Taylor are both nob heads, let's face it.

 

Nothing to do with 'lily-livered liberals™' or 'political correctness gone mad®'.

 

You're right about the effects though, it's the clulb/fans that will suffer.

 

Sorry, but its EVERYTHING to do with 'lily-livered libs/political correctness' ; there is a general view among both lawmakers and Social services that a wrong-doer must have had a 'bad time', and therefore deserves 'compassion and rehabilitation', even when its blatantly obvious that the idiot concerned is simply mad, bad or acts like a spoilt child.

 

Until Judges(and Laws) once again make the punishment fit the crime, this sort of behaviour will continue to be seen as 'the norm'...esp for footballers.

 

Fucking hell :lol:

 

Can we just agree Andy Carroll is a bit of a knob and move on? It's hardly a symptom of "Broken Britain", it's a footballer acting the cock.

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Should be transfer listed. :sadnod:

:thup:

 

:nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:

 

Bellamy is a prime example why you shouldn't ship out promising players with a bad attitude, Manchester City's most important player easily. Hughton should/must sort it out behind closed doors.

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Should be transfer listed. :sadnod:

:thup:

 

:nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:

 

Bellamy is a prime example why you shouldn't ship out promising players with a bad attitude, Manchester City's most important player easily. Hughton should/must sort it out behind closed doors.

what else  should we turn a blind eye to footballers doing then ?
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Should be transfer listed. :sadnod:

:thup:

 

:nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:

 

Bellamy is a prime example why you shouldn't ship out promising players with a bad attitude, Manchester City's most important player easily. Hughton should/must sort it out behind closed doors.

 

The courts might not agree seen as the stupid arse is already up for glassing someone, this will hardly help his cause.

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Should be transfer listed. :sadnod:

:thup:

 

:nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:

 

Bellamy is a prime example why you shouldn't ship out promising players with a bad attitude, Manchester City's most important player easily. Hughton should/must sort it out behind closed doors.

what else  should we turn a blind eye to footballers doing then ?

 

Carroll has a future man, nobody in their right mind can deny that, hes only 21, last thing I want is us selling him to a bunch of wankers just for him to score against us a la Bellamy. After whatever club that buys him turn him into a class player. The potential is there, this situation should be resolved behind closed doors, look at the Reo Coker/O'neill situation and Pulis/Bettie scenario, all done and dusted.

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Should be transfer listed. :sadnod:

:thup:

 

:nope: :nope: :nope: :nope:

 

Bellamy is a prime example why you shouldn't ship out promising players with a bad attitude, Manchester City's most important player easily. Hughton should/must sort it out behind closed doors.

 

Bellamy was our best player at that time, Carroll so far hasn't proved anything other than he's a decent striker in the championship.

 

As good as he is, Bellamy isn't more important than Tevez btw.

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