Vaj Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Is this Robinson the one that has scored shit loads of free kicks for the youth team, or is that someone else? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Vaj said: Is this Robinson the one that has scored shit loads of free kicks for the youth team, or is that someone else? Same one. Cartel Cunt Crew will be sniffing around him like dogs on heat. Boehly be like: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Final has gone to pens. 1-1 in normal time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Winners. 3-1. Pens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, Minhosa said: Winners. 3-1. Pens. At this rate, every top scout in world football is going to be watching their games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Some going. Genuinely puts them up with the best in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Is this all mainly Dan Ashworth’s work? I remember him signing all these top scouts in the country and people saying we’d start seeing the benefits of this in 5-8 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Project 2030 is on... these kids will be 19 and 20 by then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 12 minutes ago, Ronson333 said: Is this all mainly Dan Ashworth’s work? I remember him signing all these top scouts in the country and people saying we’d start seeing the benefits of this in 5-8 years. Its not just getting them, we've brought in highly sought after youngsters before but never developed them. Here's hoping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 32 minutes ago, kingxlnc said: Project 2030 is on... these kids will be 19 and 20 by then Which is what I am thinking Year 1-4 - get the foundations in place - structure, coaches, scouts Year 5-8 - slowly start seeing the fruits - better talent ID, improve loan system - begin multi club model - new training ground Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 7 hours ago, Ronson333 said: Is this all mainly Dan Ashworth’s work? I remember him signing all these top scouts in the country and people saying we’d start seeing the benefits of this in 5-8 years. Such a shame Ashworth left I wonder if he has any regrets. Few rumours it was because of PCP running the show that he was frustrated, but think he could have done a great long term job had he remained. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Are most of the lads in this under 15s team ones who have been brought in, or are the majority local lads? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Howe still won't pick a single one for this Sunday though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 7 hours ago, Rafalove said: Some going. Genuinely puts them up with the best in Europe. Particularly when two thirds of today’s squad was from the under 14 age group too. An unbelievable achievement in that context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 21 minutes ago, John P said: Are most of the lads in this under 15s team ones who have been brought in, or are the majority local lads? Mix of the two. The superstars, Robinson aside, are mainly lads we’ve signed from elsewhere. Have a look at my post earlier in the thread talking about them a little bit more. Lucas Flack, the GK we signed from Leyton Orient, had 12 offers from PL clubs when we got him. He’s already playing under 18’s for us regularly and he’s 14 or maybe just turned 15. As I said a couple of months ago, there’s a very good feeling amongst the academy that this under 15 team has HUGE potential. Certainly they thought then it was in the top 2 in the country (alongside Chelsea). There’s an argument to say it’s now the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 42 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Such a shame Ashworth left I wonder if he has any regrets. Few rumours it was because of PCP running the show that he was frustrated, but think he could have done a great long term job had he remained. I was told he didn’t like the dynamic between Staveley and Howe (direct line essentially cutting him out)….. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 39 minutes ago, John P said: Are most of the lads in this under 15s team ones who have been brought in, or are the majority local lads? This was the original post @John P. Bit more background if you’re interested… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 hour ago, Minhosa said: This was the original post @John P. Bit more background if you’re interested… Interesting, thanks! Paying six figure sums for 13 year old children is really weird, but guess that's the football world we live in now. Hopefully we manage to keep hold of most of them and we have some first team options coming from the youth teams in a few years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Whether they would be willing to stay hugely depends on whether we gave them first team experience in the next two years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 7 hours ago, Zero said: Whether they would be willing to stay hugely depends on whether we gave them first team experience in the next two years Some of them are 14. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Cheers for the updates @Minhosa. Positive to know the future could be very bright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 12 hours ago, TBG said: Howe still won't pick a single one for this Sunday though. TBG is the bloke responsible for Deluded world of RTG and I claim my £5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Appreciate the insights, @Minhosa. It's so critical that our academy ups is game so this is all really encouraging. I asked ChatGPT to create a table which defined each PL club using two metrics - pathway into first team and revenue generation - and it reckons that, cumulatively, we're the team getting the least out of its academy. Obviously it's AI so you can't put too much weight into its conclusions but I think it's probably true. 🟥 Manchester United Pathway strength: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Revenue efficiency: ⭐⭐☆☆☆ Rashford, McTominay, Garnacho (pathway); Henderson, Elanga (sales) Best first-team integration; less profitable via sales 🔵 Chelsea Pathway strength: ⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Mount, Reece James, Chalobah (pathway); Abraham, Hudson-Odoi, Loftus-Cheek (sales) World-leading revenue output; pathway exists but most leave via sales 🔴 Arsenal Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Saka, Smith Rowe, Nketiah (pathway); Iwobi, Willock, Balogun (sales) Balanced: play some, sell others 🔴 Liverpool Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Alexander-Arnold, Jones, Elliott (pathway); Brewster, N Williams, Wilson (sales) Top-heavy elite talent; moderate revenue generation 🟢 Southampton Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Ward-Prowse, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chambers (pathway & sales) Excellent non-big-six club; both pathway & sales strong 🔵 Manchester City Pathway strength:⭐⭐☆☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Phil Foden (pathway); Palmer, Lavia, Bazunu (sales) Many leave via sales; pathway into first team very narrow 🔴 Liverpool Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Alexander-Arnold, Jones, Elliott (pathway); Brewster, N Williams, Wilson (sales) Top-heavy elite talent; moderate revenue generation 🟣 Aston Villa Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Grealish, Ramsey (pathway); Grealish sale (revenue) Small volume but high-quality integration & sale 🔵 Brighton Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Ferguson, Mac Allister (youth integration); mostly B-team to sales Emerging academy, gradually improving 🟡 Leeds United Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Phillips, Gray (sales) Low volume but high-value sales 🔵 Everton Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Barkley, Gordon Historically solid but inconsistent 🟣 West Ham Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Declan Rice Famous “academy of football”; very selective but lucrative 🟤 Brentford Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐⭐☆ Mainly B-team graduates Non-traditional model; excellent revenue output, limited pathway ⚫⚪ Newcastle United Pathway strength:⭐⭐☆☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐☆☆☆ Sean Longstaff, Elliot Anderson Very limited first-team integration & sales historically 🟠 Wolves Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Semedo, Fábio Silva Some development & sales; not elite 🔵 Crystal Palace Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Wan-Bissaka, Olise Decent integration, moderate sales 🔴 Nottingham Forest Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Brennan Johnson, Grabban (sales mostly) Emerging pathway & sales post-Prem promotion 🟢 Fulham Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Tosin Adarabioyo, Sessegnon Moderate pathway and sales 🔴 Bournemouth Pathway strength:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Revenue efficiency:⭐⭐⭐☆☆ Brooks (sale) Small academy, occasional sales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 3 hours ago, The Prophet said: Some of them are 14. Training with first team for a few weeks won’t be too much to ask for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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