Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Ultimately, nobody forces him to relapse other than himself. Addiction is an illness, but also one that can be cured/beaten with the acceptance and self-motivation. I have great credit for any addict (drugs, gambling, alcoholic, smoking) who can beat it and stay off it. I have less and less sympathy for people if they continuously relapse and go through cycle after cycle of addiction as once you are 'clean' then you have the opportunity to stay clean by keeping with your support methods. If you know you've had history of an addition to gambling, the only person to blame is yourself if you're stood in a bookies. The same goes for alcohol, Gazza has nobody else to blame apart from himself for picking up the next drink and relapsing. I appreciate mental health conditions can influence and complicate matters, but nobody can say Gazza is blameless in this situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Gazza is maxed out on detoxes,so he has nowhere left to go physically and it's plain to see. It's disturbing to read that he ' beat his wife and kids for years' from individuals on an internet forum who haven'r bothered to read his explanation of hos own mindset and events pertaining to it. You have to wonder where they take their particular poison from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Explanation. Boring this, now, like. I don't think there's ever any excuse for attacking a woman, and when it's on a regular basis for years there's obviously a stronger element of deliberation than can ever be defended with the substance abuse. If this makes me judgmental or whatever, fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Of course there is no excuse for that behaviour, but where did you get your information that it went on for years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Ultimately, nobody forces him to relapse other than himself. That's a really misleading thing to say. It's his addiction, mental health problems and circumstances that force him to relapse. It's not a rational choice of free will in the way that it is for non-addicts as you've framed it there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Explanation. Boring this, now, like. I don't think there's ever any excuse for attacking a woman, and when it's on a regular basis for years there's obviously a stronger element of deliberation than can ever be defended with the substance abuse. If this makes me judgmental or whatever, fine. The fact you've posted a laughing face Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted April 4, 2016 Share Posted April 4, 2016 I can understand people thinking he's a lost cause like but there's no need to be a dick about it It's proper sad what's happened to the bloke whether it's his fault or not, or whether others have had it worse than him before or after he got there. Some people in here are furious. Insulted, ffs "He's lying to us". What? An addict in denial? Never. The fact he's in denial doesn't make me angry. What does irk me is that he's been giving it '11 months clean and everyone jumps on me for this blip'. Does anyone like being taken for a fool? have you any idea about alcoholism ? as a alcoholic you have a blip every now and again its part and parcel of the recovery and my wife works in that field and has been on courses given by experts ,im not getting at you so don't take it personal but it is not a easy thing to rid yourself of as you can imagine but the lad has as everyone is aware huge problems to overcome and his family by all accounts seem to do f*** all to help him Yes, as I mentioned above, it killed my grandfather - in front of my eyes; as it happened, as I was living with my grandparents at the time during my 'gap yah'. So I reckon I have a handle on it, in addition to volunteering for my local Council teaching basic literacy in 2010-11 to a class which was, judging by the smell and pupil interaction, about 40-50% alcoholic. I make no claim to being an expert, but I would claim to be more than a layman. Funnily enough, when I was living with my grandparents (before my grandfather's liver gave up) in Pyrford, I somehow found myself going out with a girl whose dad was a sports lawyer. Through him, we got tickets for a sports dinner at The Grosvenor and Gascoigne was at our table. The 'journalist' Harry Harris was also at our table and when HH went for a leak, Gazza decided to as well - into the pitcher of lager that Harris was topping up from. No-one said a word and, boy, did I get it in the neck from my then girlfriend later on for not saying anything... I'd earlier tried to talk to Gascoigne about NUFC when he turned up but, even on arrival, he was so drunk he could barely speak. Anyway, I digress. I don't take what you say personally in any way - this subject is a hell of a lot bigger than you or I - but when you mention his family, saying: 'by all accounts [they] seem to do f*** all to help him' then I would have to agree. In agreeing with you I am not casting aspersions on his family, but I wonder who among them is qualified/capable to help him? For me, it's clearly a job for professionals, but Gascoigne hasn't even met them half way. As i said it was not getting at you with the comment and respect your views entirely .I read the first book and at the end of it thought what a giant cock he was and had very little sympathy for him due to his general selfishness and the way he treated his new wife and family but was happy to go on the lash at every opportunity ,as has been mentioned previously he has always been a troubled soul and if his problems had been addressed at an early age maybe we could have been talking about a world great instead of someone in the last chance saloon with a limited life expectancy in his current state and the big if is does he go on a bender everyday or is it a blip that alchoholics have is open to question as we simply dont know ,my hope his he can get sent away somewhere and given a totally different enviroment to try to kill it for good but thats been done with no luck so it may be bleak who knows and time will tell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Probably his own fault according to some on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Wonder what kind of pressures were on the lad to act like his famous uncle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magpie1892 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Another 'blip': http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/7162556/Idiot-buys-alcoholic-star-Paul-Gascoigne-gin.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hate this thread getting bumped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Always awful to see a man sink to double denim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 I saw him walking home from the pub where his nephew's wake had been held last week and he didn't look too clever. Cigarette in one hand and a lad helping him to walk down the hill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Buying him a bottle of gin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Fucking Newcastle tattoo as well, absolute cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 f***ing Newcastle tattoo as well, absolute c***. Yeah I noticed that as well. Justin needs a good hiding for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning_Linguist Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Look at the state of him, so sad to see him like that. Justin defintiely needs a smack though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Always awful to see a man sink to double denim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Always awful to see a man sink to double denim. Had my stag do recently and they dressed me up in QUAD denim,all womens clothes with a denim cowboy hat too. Along with Sandals and white socks Had to wear it for 24 hours and even did the Bernabeu tour wearing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Always awful to see a man sink to double denim. Had my stag do recently and they dressed me up in QUAD denim,all womens clothes with a denim cowboy hat too. Along with Sandals and white socks Had to wear it for 24 hours and even did the Bernabeu tour wearing it That's one for the pet hates thread. People getting dressed up on stag do's, I mean. Not Quad denim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning_Linguist Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Is Quad denim really as bad as White Socks and Sandals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Is Quad denim really as bad as White Socks and Sandals? Considering the looks I was getting from walking through the centre of Madrid I would say yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-36451693 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 For f*cks sake. Is that really worthy of prosecution? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 For f*cks sake. Is that really worthy of prosecution? Probably not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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