Skirge Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 I'd cry if I could. Aye quivering lips at the ready, fkn mess this its killing me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 I'm almost resigned to the fact that we'll be starting the season in this state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Dont know why you lot are suprised we haven't been sold, its true to form for Mike Ashley. He is consistant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 ^Yeah that's right - they took the piss 'before Shearer arrived. They were mega professional for those last 8 games weren't they? Were you in a changing room like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 We had fitness coaches??? If we did I won't be sad to see them go, whoever they were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Would have done no harm giving AS a rolling contract and then let the new owners decide without strings. That would have been a credible solution instead of just sitting there doing nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Would have done no harm giving AS a rolling contract and then let the new owners decide without strings. That would have been a credible solution instead of just sitting there doing nothing. Why would Shearer, or any other self-respecting manager, sign a contract like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Would have done no harm giving AS a rolling contract and then let the new owners decide without strings. That would have been a credible solution instead of just sitting there doing nothing. Why would Shearer, or any other self-respecting manager, sign a contract like that? For the same reason he jumped in to try and save us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 ^Yeah that's right - they took the piss 'before Shearer arrived. They were mega professional for those last 8 games weren't they? Did I say that? What I did say was that the players took the piss out of Hughton, that's on the record from several players and Shearer himself, and they will again in my view. Are you saying that Shearer didn't have, and wouldn't have, a positive affect on player's attitudes and professionalism??? If you are, then you're a bigger idiot than I thought were. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Would have done no harm giving AS a rolling contract and then let the new owners decide without strings. That would have been a credible solution instead of just sitting there doing nothing. Why would Shearer, or any other self-respecting manager, sign a contract like that? For the same reason he jumped in to try and save us. Slightly different situation now though - with 8 games to go, the club needed to do something to try and lift the players, and focus them on the task of trying to stay up, which unfortunately failed. The players knew it was 8 games, and what and who they were playing for, for those 8 games. This time, it would be appointing him on a rolling contract when potential new owners may not want him ,and may end his rolling contract pretty quick, leading to more uncertainty for the players that are left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Would have done no harm giving AS a rolling contract and then let the new owners decide without strings. That would have been a credible solution instead of just sitting there doing nothing. Why would Shearer, or any other self-respecting manager, sign a contract like that? For the same reason he jumped in to try and save us. Slightly different situation now though - with 8 games to go, the club needed to do something to try and lift the players, and focus them on the task of trying to stay up, which unfortunately failed. The players knew it was 8 games, and what and who they were playing for, for those 8 games. This time, it would be appointing him on a rolling contract when potential new owners may not want him ,and may end his rolling contract pretty quick, leading to more uncertainty for the players that are left. That's the whole idea of a rolling contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Painful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sheds Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 ^Yeah that's right - they took the piss 'before Shearer arrived. They were mega professional for those last 8 games weren't they? Did I say that? What I did say was that the players took the piss out of Hughton, that's on the record from several players and Shearer himself, and they will again in my view. Are you saying that Shearer didn't have, and wouldn't have, a positive affect on player's attitudes and professionalism??? If you are, then you're a bigger idiot than I thought were. Those last 8 games were as bad as the 8 before them. That last 45 mins is the most gutless performance I've seen from ANY NUFC side in the last 30+ years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 True that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 ^Yeah that's right - they took the piss 'before Shearer arrived. They were mega professional for those last 8 games weren't they? Did I say that? What I did say was that the players took the piss out of Hughton, that's on the record from several players and Shearer himself, and they will again in my view. Are you saying that Shearer didn't have, and wouldn't have, a positive affect on player's attitudes and professionalism??? If you are, then you're a bigger idiot than I thought were. Those last 8 games were as bad as the 8 before them. That last 45 mins is the most gutless performance I've seen from ANY NUFC side in the last 30+ years. And Shearer would have taken action against the vast majority of that squad by getting rid of the gutless, overpaid pisstakers, but he hasn't been given the chance. You imply in your posts that you don't rate Shearer as a manager and the failure to preserve our Premier League status was ultimately down to him. If that's the case I think it puts you in a minority of 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 I feel sorry for Hughton in all honesty. The bloke was brought in to give Keegan a hand and he's been manager for about almost half of our games last season, not to mention doing all the coaching as well. I've been told by quite a few that Kinnear didn't really do much in training meaning it was Hughton and Paul Barron doing everything except fitness and conditioning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sheds Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 ^Yeah that's right - they took the piss 'before Shearer arrived. They were mega professional for those last 8 games weren't they? Did I say that? What I did say was that the players took the piss out of Hughton, that's on the record from several players and Shearer himself, and they will again in my view. Are you saying that Shearer didn't have, and wouldn't have, a positive affect on player's attitudes and professionalism??? If you are, then you're a bigger idiot than I thought were. Those last 8 games were as bad as the 8 before them. That last 45 mins is the most gutless performance I've seen from ANY NUFC side in the last 30+ years. And Shearer would have taken action against the vast majority of that squad by getting rid of the gutless, overpaid pisstakers, but he hasn't been given the chance. You imply in your posts that you don't rate Shearer as a manager and the failure to preserve our Premier League status was ultimately down to him. If that's the case I think it puts you in a minority of 1. The comment you made that I took exception to is this oneHughton can say what he likes, but the fact is that without a manager in place the players will take the piss, just like they did before Shearer arrived last season. For every day that Hughton is in charge the chances of us having a good season diminish.My point is they were still taking the piss AFTER he arrived. Again, look at that last 45 mins it was utterly pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Would have done no harm giving AS a rolling contract and then let the new owners decide without strings. That would have been a credible solution instead of just sitting there doing nothing. Why would Shearer, or any other self-respecting manager, sign a contract like that? For the same reason he jumped in to try and save us. Nah, not buying that. Why should he break his balls trying to sort out this dogturd of a club if it's not even guaranteed that he's gonna stay into the actual season? When he came in it was solid. You're here for 8 games; give it a go and if we stay up, we'll see. He had nowt to lose then. If it's not set in stone that he's going to be Newcastle United manager, he'd even be better off spending his time looking for other work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 i wonder if shearer has been scouting, building up lists of targets, consulting contacts inside and out the club, sounding out clubs about players etc. if not, that's yet another area in which we'll be a month or two behind everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 i wonder if shearer has been scouting, building up lists of targets, consulting contacts inside and out the club, sounding out clubs about players etc. if not, that's yet another area in which we'll be a month or two behind everyone else. Tbf, he wants shot if he hasn't been. I've no doubt he'll have a list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 i wonder if shearer has been scouting, building up lists of targets, consulting contacts inside and out the club, sounding out clubs about players etc. if not, that's yet another area in which we'll be a month or two behind everyone else. Tbf, he wants shot if he hasn't been. I've no doubt he'll have a list. i'll think he has an outline of players he would like, but i doubt there's any depth gone into it, he won't have told scouts to attend the under-21 tournament and watch specific players as, being unconnected to the club, he doesn't have the authority to do that. likewise for making enquiries or jetting about on official business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Would he still come if Shepard were to get his greasy palms on our club again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Would he still come if Shepard were to get his greasy palms on our club again? Apparently so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8125576.stm "The most important thing is the players get a good pre-season under their belts. "The most important thing is that the club has to come straight back up," Make your mind up Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Would he still come if Shepard were to get his greasy palms on our club again? They were playing golf together a few weeks ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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