maybe_next_year Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 threat going forward, but our place in the league is based on our defence, just wasn't good enough imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Did decent enough today, a few decent forward runs. Much better than expected but the lack of protection for Raylor was very evident from the amount of space Sturridge kept getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Did fine but tended towards playing more centrally and as such left Raylor exposed. Still played alright, with a solid left back is an option there based on that imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 His problem was he was trying to play in the same role as HBA, which completely exposed Taylor being attacked on the left flank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Did Ok compared to normal hideous performances on the wing but his indiscipline at times was unforgivable both going forward and backward. Pards must love his big cock as I've no idea why he started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1 Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 He was our best player for a long while. Eh? What? He was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chubby Jason Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 Shola was our best outfield player when he came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Deserves a bit more credit this fella for his contribution against Chelsea. Could have had 3 or 4 assists to his name on another day. (when was the last time we said that about Jonas). The through ball that should have resulted in a sending off was excellent, as was the cross for Ba that Cech just tipped over. Nobody will ever convince me that two left backs is better than one decent left back and one good winger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Deserves a bit more credit this fella for his contribution against Chelsea. Could have had 3 or 4 assists to his name on another day. (when was the last time we said that about Jonas). The through ball that should have resulted in a sending off was excellent, as was the cross for Ba that Cech just tipped over. Nobody will ever convince me that two left backs is better than one decent left back and one good winger. I agree with your first paragraph, he contributed pretty well. On the second one though, we lost the game 0-3, so I don't think you can argue that leaving Ryan Taylor exposed is better than protecting him. I think everyone agrees that we should have a LB that doesn't need protection, that's obvious. But we don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Deserves a bit more credit this fella for his contribution against Chelsea. Could have had 3 or 4 assists to his name on another day. (when was the last time we said that about Jonas). The through ball that should have resulted in a sending off was excellent, as was the cross for Ba that Cech just tipped over. Nobody will ever convince me that two left backs is better than one decent left back and one good winger. I agree with your first paragraph, he contributed pretty well. On the second one though, we lost the game 0-3, so I don't think you can argue that leaving Ryan Taylor exposed is better than protecting him. I think everyone agrees that we should have a LB that doesn't need protection, that's obvious. But we don't. Hold on a minute, all three goals came from breaks down the right and the last goal was when we were down to 10 men and Taylor was the only defender in defence tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Did well this weekend. Deserves a place on the bench against Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 He was shite at what we really needed him to do. Ok going forward, without having any end product what so ever. Doesn't deserve much praise at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 He was our best player for a long while. Eh? What? He was. No he wasn't. He did OK by his standards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 He was our best player for a long while. Eh? What? He was. No he wasn't. He did OK by his standards. is correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 He was our best player for a long while. Eh? What? He was. No he wasn't. He did OK by his standards. Exactly he was alright going forward but didn't do anymore than the minimum you would expect from your left winger. Didn't offer anything defensively and had a tendency to go missing from the left hand side in the first half - although for all I know he could have been told to do so by AP. I will concede that he was a little unlucky though - on another day he could have picked up a couple of assists - the through ball to Ba, the cross which Ba somehow managed to test Cech from and even the through ball that hit the back of Ben Arfa's heels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 On his way out? free to leave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maybe_next_year Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 he did say he wants football as some point didn't he? i think if anyone comes in for him he'll be off, i just can't see anyone wanting him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 He'll not go in Jan with Ba and Cisse away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 On his way out? free to leave Anything prompted this (other than our new signing) or just thinking out loud? I do think someone could go as we have a surplus of mediocre forwards. Likely him as I don't see Shola going and I like Best. Can just see him being in the same boat as Smith but Smith will stay and take his wages, think Lovelypants wants to play football and would move for that reason. Is he still injured though ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 He'll not go in Jan with Ba and Cisse away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 He'll not go in Jan with Ba and Cisse away. And I hate to say it, but I wouldn't want him to tbh. The only player I'd be happy with us getting rid of this January is Smith. Otherwise, I'd like us to hold on to everyone until the summer at which point then we can shift out the rest of the slightly useful but upgradeable backup like Loven. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Pardew mentions him in the 'competition for places' bit at the end of his Cisse interview Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Don't think he'll be let go this month but can definitely see him leaving in the summer. I reckon he can still do a job for a team in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 He'll see out his contract until the end of the season like Smith. Despite them two being frequently grouped together Lovenkrands has been a far better servant for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 He'll see out his contract until the end of the season like Smith. Despite them two being frequently grouped together Lovenkrands has been a far better servant for us. Loven doesn't deserve any abuse at all, sometimes we got pissed off with him when he got games and we wanted someone else in there but it wasn't his fault. He's a good lad and better than many have made him out to be, I hope he ends his career well with a newly promoted PL team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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