ElDiablo Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Someone else getting fucked over instead of us. I'd love it if we fluked our way to the trophy by diving, fouling and using dirty tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Milner's so bad it's funny. Stevie Starfish practically won England that group on his own without even playing that great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Glad to see Stiflers pre match predictions come true..... I said we were going to lose all 3 group games, we done better than I expected after the 1st game. I think we have got the kinder draw as I think in theory our play will suit playing against Italy and I don't think Italy have anything that we should be fearful of, weary of yes but not fearful of, everything they can through at us isn't really anything that our players don't deal with a dozen times a game in the Premiership without any incidents. The thing is though that this is England, theirs always a feeling that even though we know we are capable of winning the pressure could be too much for us too handle. We got the kinder draw because we won the group with 7 points from 9 FFS. You seem to be putting pressure on more than anyone else, I think most balanced English people expect a 50/50 chance at best against the Italians. If we go out in the quarters then we've had a relatively successful tournment in the circumstances, semi's very successful, beyond that ridiculously good. I think you need to get real rather than others tbh, people don't expect much these days and you're swallowing the media rubbish with a wide open mouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The big question is simply how much money should I stick on Italy? Truly woeful performance, no game plan, no cohesion and frail at the back. Ukraine can count themselves rather unlucky not take something from the game. Looking ahead Italy may well be a more dangerous opponent than Spain. At least against the latter they could sit back and attempt to absorb a fairly constant passing game, it seems to suit England's players a wee bit more. Italy will be far more direct with set pieces and traditional wide men. Also if I were the Italien coaching staff I'd be wanting to fit Giovinco into the side as Scott Parker has been truly embarassing thus far. Of course I've just realised how negative that sounds, the major postives for England being: a) they're through and b) they can't get any worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Why suddenly do people care that much about England then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 lol shut up and kiss roy's feet dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I like Welbeck but he's done next to nothing apart from his goal and poses almost no threat. Would put Carroll in on Sunday and tell him to wind up their two centre halfs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The big question is simply how much money should I stick on Italy? Truly woeful performance, no game plan, no cohesion and frail at the back. Ukraine can count themselves rather unlucky not take something from the game. Looking ahead Italy may well be a more dangerous opponent than Spain. At least against the latter they could sit back and attempt to absorb a fairly constant passing game, it seems to suit England's players a wee bit more. Italy will be far more direct with set pieces and traditional wide men. Also if I were the Italien coaching staff I'd be wanting to fit Giovinco into the side as Scott Parker has been truly embarassing so far. Of course I've just realised how negative that sounds, the major postives for England being: a) they're through and b) they can't get any worse. I think you've been harsh on England this tournament, but if we play like we did tonight against Italy we'll get bummed - no doubt. It wasn't a good performance, as you say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The big question is simply how much money should I stick on Italy? Truly woeful performance, no game plan, no cohesion and frail at the back. Ukraine can count themselves rather unlucky not take something from the game. Looking ahead Italy may well be a more dangerous opponent than Spain. At least against the latter they could sit back and attempt to absorb a fairly constant passing game, it seems to suit England's players a wee bit more. Italy will be far more direct with set pieces and traditional wide men. Also if I were the Italien coaching staff I'd be wanting to fit Giovinco into the side as Scott Parker has been truly embarassing so far. Of course I've just realised how negative that sounds, the major postives for England being: a) they're through and b) they can't get any worse. OTT on all counts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Chiellini out of the quarter final injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I disagree with The Prophet on how bad we've been thus far, but if we play like we did today against Italy we'll definitely be going out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Gerrard is carrying the side at the moment tbh. Absolutely. Also carried the team for the last tournament as well. SSSSHHHHH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Milner has to be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Carroll to start will cause them loads of problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Trying my best to get behind these but finding it hard to do so, bore the living fuck out of me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 reckon we will lose on penalties to italy after a 0-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I like Welbeck but he's done next to nothing apart from his goal and poses almost no threat. Would put Carroll in on Sunday and tell him to wind up their two centre halfs. That's nonsense that. Didn't play well tonight, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I disagree with The Prophet on how bad we've been thus far, but if we play like we did today against Italy we'll definitely be going out. A well executed game plan against France follwed by two very unconvincing victories. The whole team lacks a purpose as well as any form of cohesion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 reckon we will lose on penalties to italy after a 0-0 Then we will all come around to your house and destroy you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I think we'll beat Italy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I'd agree with starting Carroll on Sunday night. The Italian's don't like it up them! http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/imageArchive/images/5200_gall_003.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I like Welbeck but he's done next to nothing apart from his goal and poses almost no threat. Would put Carroll in on Sunday and tell him to wind up their two centre halfs. That's nonsense that. Didn't play well tonight, like. What's he done apart from being neat and tidy and generally passing the ball backwards? Distinctly remember him being poor against Sweden before his goal and we did nothing as a team against France. I do like him, but he needs to be receiving the ball much higher up the pitch to be effective which won't happen they way we're playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
womblemaster Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 why is he playing milner instead of glen johnson? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I like Welbeck but he's done next to nothing apart from his goal and poses almost no threat. Would put Carroll in on Sunday and tell him to wind up their two centre halfs. That's nonsense that. Didn't play well tonight, like. It isn't at all. Aside from the goal against Sweden (which, although it was all about Walcott, he took well) and one little jinking run midway through the second half tonight - he's not threatened in the slightest. I like him but he's had his chance and tbh i think Carroll is worth the shirt more than he is. At least there's a constant opportunity for a shot on target with Carroll. Welbeck holds the ball up well, but that's all it is at the moment - he seems to spend the majority of the match thirty yards out with his back to goal. Promising player though. As i said, that little run in the second half this evening was a cracking bit of movement and turn of pace; shame we haven't seen more of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Milner should be on the bench to come on last 20 mins to cover parker or gerrard and run his socks off which is all he's good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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