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We had Ballack and Alexei Lalas in the studio here. The sign-off was pretty good, Ballack really grudging - disparaging the English team and their poor football, but Lalas getting it spot on, saying that this is England, and a great job by Roy. Limited, hard-working, but making the best of what they've got.

 

Stifler will be pissed, mind.

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Gerrard is carrying the side at the moment tbh.

Agree. Head and shoulders above everyone else.

Was Walcott mentioned after he came on ?

Trying hard not to go OTT on how poor Milner was. No shortage of effort, just nothing he did worked.

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Glad to see Stiflers pre match predictions come true.....

I said we were going to lose all 3 group games, we done better than I expected after the 1st game.

 

I think we have got the kinder draw as I think in theory our play will suit playing against Italy and I don't think Italy have anything that we should be fearful of, weary of yes but not fearful of, everything they can through at us isn't really anything that our players don't deal with a dozen times a game in the Premiership without any incidents.

 

The thing is though that this is England, theirs always a feeling that even though we know we are capable of winning the pressure could be too much for us too handle.

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Gerrard is carrying the side at the moment tbh.

Agree. Head and shoulders above everyone else.

Was Walcott mentioned after he came on ?

Trying hard not to go OTT on how poor Milner was. No shortage of effort, just nothing he did worked.

 

He didn't have time to get in it, but tbh he was a certainty to make it 2-0 had Ox-C taken one of the six gazillion chances he had to pass it to him during that breakaway.

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You've got to give Parker credit.

 

Keep giving the ball away and you'll keep getting opportunities to do superman blocks and desperate challenges, recieving praise in the process. His attributes are a complete cycle of self-fulfillment.

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Glad to see Stiflers pre match predictions come true.....

I said we were going to lose all 3 group games, we done better than I expected after the 1st game.

 

I think we have got the kinder draw as I think in theory our play will suit playing against Italy and I don't think Italy have anything that we should be fearful of, weary of yes but not fearful of, everything they can through at us isn't really anything that our players don't deal with a dozen times a game in the Premiership without any incidents.

 

The thing is though that this is England, theirs always a feeling that even though we know we are capable of winning the pressure could be too much for us too handle.

 

:lol: We got the kinder draw because we won the group with 7 points from 9 FFS.

 

You seem to be putting pressure on more than anyone else, I think most balanced English people expect a 50/50 chance at best against the Italians.  If we go out in the quarters then we've had a relatively successful tournment in the circumstances, semi's very successful, beyond that ridiculously good.  I think you need to get real rather than others tbh, people don't expect much these days and you're swallowing the media rubbish with a wide open mouth.

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The big question is simply how much money should I stick on Italy?

 

Truly woeful performance, no game plan, no cohesion and frail at the back. Ukraine can count themselves rather unlucky not take something from the game.

 

Looking ahead Italy may well be a more dangerous opponent than Spain. At least against the latter they could sit back and attempt to absorb a fairly constant passing game, it seems to suit England's players a wee bit more. Italy will be far more direct with set pieces and traditional wide men. Also if I were the Italien coaching staff I'd be wanting to fit Giovinco into the side as Scott Parker has been truly embarassing thus far.

 

Of course I've just realised how negative that sounds, the major postives for England being: a) they're through and b) they can't get any worse.

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The big question is simply how much money should I stick on Italy?

 

Truly woeful performance, no game plan, no cohesion and frail at the back. Ukraine can count themselves rather unlucky not take something from the game.

 

Looking ahead Italy may well be a more dangerous opponent than Spain. At least against the latter they could sit back and attempt to absorb a fairly constant passing game, it seems to suit England's players a wee bit more. Italy will be far more direct with set pieces and traditional wide men. Also if I were the Italien coaching staff I'd be wanting to fit Giovinco into the side as Scott Parker has been truly embarassing so far.

 

Of course I've just realised how negative that sounds, the major postives for England being: a) they're through and b) they can't get any worse.

 

I think you've been harsh on England this tournament, but if we play like we did tonight against Italy we'll get bummed - no doubt. It wasn't a good performance, as you say.

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The big question is simply how much money should I stick on Italy?

 

Truly woeful performance, no game plan, no cohesion and frail at the back. Ukraine can count themselves rather unlucky not take something from the game.

 

Looking ahead Italy may well be a more dangerous opponent than Spain. At least against the latter they could sit back and attempt to absorb a fairly constant passing game, it seems to suit England's players a wee bit more. Italy will be far more direct with set pieces and traditional wide men. Also if I were the Italien coaching staff I'd be wanting to fit Giovinco into the side as Scott Parker has been truly embarassing so far.

 

Of course I've just realised how negative that sounds, the major postives for England being: a) they're through and b) they can't get any worse.

 

OTT on all counts.

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I like Welbeck but he's done next to nothing apart from his goal and poses almost no threat. Would put Carroll in on Sunday and tell him to wind up their two centre halfs.

 

That's nonsense that. Didn't play well tonight, like.

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