Conjo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Why would he be better off playing for Belgium with a view to achievements? http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/843/xf5c.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Needs to just stay fit. He has the potential to be a fantastic player. Personally, he reminds me of Terry. You just know he's a terrible lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good to see his fairly innocuous comments have been blown thoroughly out of proportion. Innit, though. He doesn't appear to have a great deal going on between his ears so, when faced with a large group of journos and TV cameras, he's trotted out the cliches at a rate of knots. People harp on about the media sensationalising every little story, yet they still fall for it, and join in themselves, nearly every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Benteke or Lukaku? Who is better right now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Benteke or Lukaku? Who is better right now? Marvin Sordell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I think a fully-fit Lukaku would be frightening. Would be interested to know more about this Belgian wave, mind. Was it a change in youth development? From the outside, seems bizarre a fairly average European country has, at the same time, got a dozen or so top-class players coming through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Aye, he's just not particularly sharp. When you read the quotes, you can be lead to believe he thinks only English-born players should play for England. That went out in the 80's for the bigger European countries. He just didn't think whatever point he was trying to make through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'd lean slightly towards Benteke at this point in time, but both excellent. Lukaku's off the ball movement and awareness isn't fantastic at this stage IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'd lean slightly towards Benteke at this point in time, but both excellent. Lukaku's off the ball movement and awareness isn't fantastic at this stage IMO. That's something I've picked up on so far. But, as I say, I'm pretty convinced he isn't even fully fit yet. Benteke is oustanding like. There's no need, Belgium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Sometimes you can see why Mourinho didn't think Lukaku was ready for Chelsea. His play on the ball isn't great, his feet aren't that fast. He's scary for CBs to face up against, but he still has a long way to go IMO, the hype is over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Why would he be better off playing for Belgium with a view to achievements? http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/843/xf5c.jpg A whole lot of talent in that squad. The only real weakness is at fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Forecasting the performance/achievements of national sides based on personnel seems a bit outdated to me. It's about teams and how well players interact together. Look at France (and to a lesser extent) England. They have enough good players to be dominant forces in football, but barely manage to look more convincing than your Russias/Swedens/Uruguays etc (if at all). Seen nothing as yet to suggest that Belgium can threaten Germany/Spain in terms of dominance. They're a threat for traditionally bigger teams in one-off ties by virtue of the calibre of their players, but in terms of over a tournament they're as unproven as they've ever been IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Bit sick of people prattling on about Belgium at the minute. Individually they've an excellent squad but I don't think they'll go as far next summer as some people are suggesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'm always a bit underwhelmed when I look at Belgium on paper, everyone talks about them like they're an awesome force of football quality. They have a fair number of good players, obviously, but it seems slightly over the top the way they're lauded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'm always a bit underwhelmed when I look at Belgium on paper, everyone talks about them like they're an awesome force of football quality. They have a fair number of good players, obviously, but it seems slightly over the top the way they're lauded. Bit sick of people prattling on about Belgium at the minute. Individually they've an excellent squad but I don't think they'll go as far next summer as some people are suggesting. I'm now not sure if Belguim are overrated or underrated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 The actual standard of International Football for me is pretty average at present, apart from a few nations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good to see his fairly innocuous comments have been blown thoroughly out of proportion. Innit, though. He doesn't appear to have a great deal going on between his ears so, when faced with a large group of journos and TV cameras, he's trotted out the cliches at a rate of knots. People harp on about the media sensationalising every little story, yet they still fall for it, and join in themselves, nearly every time. Players make comments, comments are overblown, player stops bothering with the press, press whinge about lack of access and players being aloof. Rinse and repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Forecasting the performance/achievements of national sides based on personnel seems a bit outdated to me. It's about teams and how well players interact together. Look at France (and to a lesser extent) England. They have enough good players to be dominant forces in football, but barely manage to look more convincing than your Russias/Swedens/Uruguays etc (if at all). Seen nothing as yet to suggest that Belgium can threaten Germany/Spain in terms of dominance. They're a threat for traditionally bigger teams in one-off ties by virtue of the calibre of their players, but in terms of over a tournament they're as unproven as they've ever been IMO. Spot on, particularly the last bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'm always a bit underwhelmed when I look at Belgium on paper, everyone talks about them like they're an awesome force of football quality. They have a fair number of good players, obviously, but it seems slightly over the top the way they're lauded. I've not read anything that suggests more than that. A collection of highly talented individuals who must prove they can play as a single unit against the very best. Definitely a sleeper in Brazil. They have steamrolled through their qualifying group to this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Good to see his fairly innocuous comments have been blown thoroughly out of proportion. Innit, though. He doesn't appear to have a great deal going on between his ears so, when faced with a large group of journos and TV cameras, he's trotted out the cliches at a rate of knots. People harp on about the media sensationalising every little story, yet they still fall for it, and join in themselves, nearly every time. Fair point, I just thought it was a shame to have such a young and talented player coming out with that stuff about English blood and thunder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Sometimes you can see why Mourinho didn't think Lukaku was ready for Chelsea. His play on the ball isn't great, his feet aren't that fast. He's scary for CBs to face up against, but he still has a long way to go IMO, the hype is over the top. He's 20. The hype isn't OTT. He's better than 95% of 20 year-old strikers. If he works hard on his game he'll be among the best in the world. He's already one of th top 10 strikers in the division. I'd have Benteke over him if for some reason we could have one for a season. Barely though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 IMO Belgium have maybe the 4th/5th strongest squad in Europe. Spain, Germany, Italy.. maybe the Dutch who have establishde world class players in certain positions. Biggest weakness with Belgium is age and experience. From country that didn't always make the finals of tournaments to one of the strongest it's a big jump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Lukaku over hyped? No chance. That's a 20 year old we're talking about. Incredible potential, and more impressively has the hunger and attitude to succeed. Seems a quality guy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Think Mourinho is not into developing younger players, and prefers a finished article? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Sometimes you can see why Mourinho didn't think Lukaku was ready for Chelsea. His play on the ball isn't great, his feet aren't that fast. He's scary for CBs to face up against, but he still has a long way to go IMO, the hype is over the top. Ask Lescott that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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