Foluwashola Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 That Gareth Barry and James Milner get games for England is one of life's great mysteries. England being completely shite is one of the main reasons they get in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 The main problem we have now is that we just can't compete with the possession game currently dominating, or the speedy attacking of Germany at world cup. I don't think we have the players to play a possession game (and indeed at international level it is noticably more defensive and boring, Spain at world cup were not really entertainers, they retained the ball so well they didn't conceed, but by being barcalona without Messi, lacked a cutting edge. I think the idea has been for a aggressive but counter attacking minded team, but our defense isn't good enough, we can't afford to invite pressure onto ourselves as we haven't the solidity at the back. Well, it's mostly the fact that Del Bosque sets up Spain more defensively than Barcelona rather than just "lack of Messi". He plays Iniesta on the wing instead of an out-and-out forward, and uses Xavi and Alonso as the midfield pair. Both operate from deep, and have a more advanced midfielder at their clubs as partners, namely Özil and Iniesta. It's a Lampard/Gerrard kind of situation really, they should bench the lesser Xavi (still a great player mind) but the Madrid media would go apeshit... We have already won both darn cups, I think we can afford to take some risks and give some entertainment. Casillas S. Ramos Piqué Puyol Training Cone Busquets Xavi Iniesta Silva Torres Villa All fun and giggles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Wake me up when the finals start in June. Germany will poop the party by winning it. Capello's reign has been amazingly unspectacular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 pointless question thats probably been answered before - whats with a lot of internationals kicking off on Friday night now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I'm not sure at this point if Torres is ever going to regain his old form, so I'd probably ditch him and one of the other prodigiously talented spanish players. Spain out of charity should loan out the amazing players that only make the bench at best...it's a bit ridiculous really, there are a ton of players there who can deliver a pass a load better than anyone in the England squad. Capello's loyalty to Milner is getting ridiculous, but the tabloids basically pick the england press at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 The main problem we have now is that we just can't compete with the possession game currently dominating, or the speedy attacking of Germany at world cup. I don't think we have the players to play a possession game (and indeed at international level it is noticably more defensive and boring, Spain at world cup were not really entertainers, they retained the ball so well they didn't conceed, but by being barcalona without Messi, lacked a cutting edge. I think the idea has been for a aggressive but counter attacking minded team, but our defense isn't good enough, we can't afford to invite pressure onto ourselves as we haven't the solidity at the back. Well, it's mostly the fact that Del Bosque sets up Spain more defensively than Barcelona rather than just "lack of Messi". He plays Iniesta on the wing instead of an out-and-out forward, and uses Xavi and Alonso as the midfield pair. Both operate from deep, and have a more advanced midfielder at their clubs as partners, namely Özil and Iniesta. It's a Lampard/Gerrard kind of situation really, they should bench the lesser Xavi (still a great player mind) but the Madrid media would go apeshit... We have already won both darn cups, I think we can afford to take some risks and give some entertainment. Casillas S. Ramos Piqué Puyol Training Cone Busquets Xavi Iniesta Silva Torres Villa All fun and giggles. Look at that man, its fucking disgusting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 I'd rather have Gareth Barry and Scott Parker in my midfield anyday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta and Silva.. with Fabregas, Alonso, Mata, Thiago and Cazorla for backup in midfield. It's actually disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertCommunicator Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 England are fucking pony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta and Silva.. with Fabregas, Alonso, Mata, Thiago and Cazorla for backup in midfield. It's actually disgusting. Not to mention the still very good... Canales, Javi Martinez, Valero, Navas, Pablo Hernandez, Léon, Granero etc etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Oxlade-Chamberlain has scored a hattrick for the U-21s. Gonna be some player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Oxlade-Chamberlain has scored a hattrick for the U-21s. Gonna be some player. Blatantly playing harder because he feels threatened by wor Sammy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 One good thing about the internationals, we've got players likely to start for France, Argentina & Holland, as well as the Italy U21 captain playing...not many teams outside the very elite can boast that eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Oh btw Ian Holloway to manage england. pleeeeeeeease Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta and Silva.. with Fabregas, Alonso, Mata, Thiago and Cazorla for backup in midfield. It's actually disgusting. Not to mention the still very good... Canales, Javi Martinez, Valero, Navas, Pablo Hernandez, Léon, Granero etc etc etc 16 midfielders and Arteta nowhere to be seen. The fact he'd walk into the England squad speaks volumes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Spain actually sicken me like. They have too much depth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 A Spanish "B" squad would probably reach the last 8 of a World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 A Spanish "B" squad would probably reach the last 8 of a World Cup. Indeed..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 A Spanish "B" squad would probably reach the last 8 of a World Cup. Indeed..... That's just horrible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 they've got too much depth because their clubs have obviously got something right developing young players 10 years ago. Our FA and clubs need to take note, they always seem to make a lot of noise about it then no players appear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Didn't know this 'til today but Montenegro have a new coach for this one. Still can't seeing anything other than bore draw or one-nil to someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Didn't know this 'til today but Montenegro have a new coach for this one. Still can't seeing anything other than bore draw or one-nil to someone. they do? thought they were doing well in the group tbh (ok losing to wales is embarrassing) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sydneycove Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Wait..... when did English fans start expecting bore draws against Montenegro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 The main problem we have now is that we just can't compete with the possession game currently dominating, or the speedy attacking of Germany at world cup. I don't think we have the players to play a possession game (and indeed at international level it is noticably more defensive and boring, Spain at world cup were not really entertainers, they retained the ball so well they didn't conceed, but by being barcalona without Messi, lacked a cutting edge. I think the idea has been for a aggressive but counter attacking minded team, but our defense isn't good enough, we can't afford to invite pressure onto ourselves as we haven't the solidity at the back. Well, it's mostly the fact that Del Bosque sets up Spain more defensively than Barcelona rather than just "lack of Messi". He plays Iniesta on the wing instead of an out-and-out forward, and uses Xavi and Alonso as the midfield pair. Both operate from deep, and have a more advanced midfielder at their clubs as partners, namely Özil and Iniesta. It's a Lampard/Gerrard kind of situation really, they should bench the lesser Xavi (still a great player mind) but the Madrid media would go apeshit... We have already won both darn cups, I think we can afford to take some risks and give some entertainment. Casillas S. Ramos Piqué Puyol Training Cone Busquets Xavi Iniesta Silva Torres Villa All fun and giggles. Look at that man, its fucking disgusting Am I the only one who only noticed that after it had been quoted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Most of the media seem to have made their collective minds up about how we'll line-up tonight. However, Tyler was just on SSN saying that there had been no leak from the England camp and so assumed that it was just media guess work. Hart Jones Cahill Terry Cole Parker Barry Walcott Rooney Young Zamora Zamora is definitely the best forward option we have in the team on current form. He's started the season well, having the most goals and assists of all the strikers in the squad. Welbeck has as many goals, with a higher conversion rate, but hasn't contributed as many direct assists. It's also important to note that Zamora will add the greatest physical presence, assuming we discard the out of form Carroll, of all the strikers and shouldn't be too phased by the night being an 'oldy'. That despite him only ever making 1 appearance for England before. As a substitute, at home against some minnow or other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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