TheGuv Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Hate Capello. Hasn't been at SJP or SoS. Couldn't give a toss about them until Poland 2012 tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Nowt for him to see at either, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Have to say, I can't get too upset about the squad. Sure, you can pick on form, but isn't that why Parker and Zamora are in there? If you picked totally on form, chances are you'd have a completely different squad each time. That would be a nightmare to work with. The squad is more a reflection on how limited the options are. Who exactly would people have in CM instead of Parker, Barry or Lampard? Which goalkeepers should be picked? Steven Taylor has done well, but has been playing with a team on form, alongside a classy centerback, against weaker opposition. Cahill has been in exactly the opposite position. I'd say Agbonlahor is unlucky because he can play both out wide and up front. There are a lot of blunt instruments up front in that squad. Other than that, can't see Capello has much to work with. i'd pick Ben Foster , Robert Green , Fraser Forster or Norwich keeper John Ruddy than those two Foster is apparently out of the reckoning, Robert Green hasn't exactly been the best for England, has he, and I am deeply unconvinced by Forster. Ruddy might well be worth a shout. I'd like to know how Carson has been doing at Bursaspor, anyone know? Point is, they're really all much of a muchness, so I can't get too agitated about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Nowt for him to see at either, man. In 4 whole years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Hate Capello. Hasn't been at SJP or SoS. Couldn't give a toss about them until Poland 2012 tbh Aye, this is one of things I don't like about Capello. Can't be arsed to see any PL games in the North East? Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 He'll be at the Tottenham game I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Parker in the squad and Carrick not. Sounds about right to me, Parker's much more worthy of being included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Parker, Barry, Lampard and Milner. What an abortion of a central midfield choice. I'm not sure who else he can realistically pick tbh. Our central midfield options look very limited without Wilshire, incredible how quickly we've become reliant on his availability. Cleverly's injured too, Hargreaves is perma-crock, Carrick's not played much and done very little when he has of late, Barton's decent enough but not up to scratch in the centre, Rodwell hasn't impressed me much over the past 12 months after his initial promise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 4, 2011 Share Posted October 4, 2011 Gerrard and Wilshere are our best players in CM and to have them both out is a blow. We should still have more than enough to secure a win though. I'm very relieved to see Rooney back. If he'd been out as well, we'd be struggling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I dunno if I can even be arsed to watch this on Friday. I fully expect our standard boring 2 or 3 nil away grinder to operate and Barry to be shit as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm out with old work associates on Friday so won't really have a choice, would rather watch Czechs-Spain on ITV4 instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I dunno if I can even be arsed to watch this on Friday. I fully expect our standard boring 2 or 3 nil away grinder to operate and Barry to be shit as usual. Yeah same, was discussing this at work and the general consensus is we just cba with England now. Especially since the debacle of the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'll be watching (half-heartedly though). A point = job done. I'll be up for the actual tournament when it starts in June mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm out with old work associates on Friday so won't really have a choice, would rather watch Czechs-Spain on ITV4 instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Gerrard and Wilshere are our best players in CM and to have them both out is a blow. We should still have more than enough to secure a win though. I'm very relieved to see Rooney back. If he'd been out as well, we'd be struggling. You've been licking Gerrard's arse for years. Give it a rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Gerrard and Wilshere are our best players in CM and to have them both out is a blow. We should still have more than enough to secure a win though. I'm very relieved to see Rooney back. If he'd been out as well, we'd be struggling. You've been licking Gerrard's arse for years. Give it a rest. I'm sure half your posts on here are written in that tone. Do you not think you should be taking your own advice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I'm out with old work associates on Friday so won't really have a choice, would rather watch Czechs-Spain on ITV4 instead. That came out wrong, just meant that it'll be on in every bar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 FUCKING BORED OF THE INTERNATIONAL BREAK. BORING BORING FUCKING BORING AS FUCK. PISS OFF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It's even worse when your country has nowt to play for. Think I'm just gonna start drinking on Friday evening and not stop til Sunday, will make the lack of football not seem as bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 International football. http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/579/owingfacinatingcomeclos.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Plain boring, especially with this Italian arsehole playing Gareth fucking Barry all the time. I actually rated him a few years ago when he was at Villa when they were flying, hate the bastard now. Also even though he's not in the squad, I think over the past 2/3 years Steven Gerrard has turned into absolute horse shit and should not be near the England starting 11. God knows who I would play, just not him. Maybe it's a personal grudge that I can't remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 We are absolutely a million miles from Germany and Spain at the moment, Holland look good despite their atrocity at trying to ruin the world cup final, and Italy and France are getting their act together since the world cup in a way we completely haven't. We desperately needed to gel in a new team together in preparation for the Euros. I don't buy this need to gradually shift, nice enough but when clearly players are dragging the attitude down, the team will never work well with each other. Obviously the intent now is to build the team around Wilshere, and I think this is a decent enough plan. With Phil Jones, Sturridge, Oxlaide Chamberlin, Welbeck, Rooney still young, Cleverly etc, there is the talent about, but nowhere near enough and we are short in areas. Downing and Young do appear to be stepping up for England a bit of late though so that's good. The main problem we have now is that we just can't compete with the possession game currently dominating, or the speedy attacking of Germany at world cup. I don't think we have the players to play a possession game (and indeed at international level it is noticably more defensive and boring, Spain at world cup were not really entertainers, they retained the ball so well they didn't conceed, but by being barcalona without Messi, lacked a cutting edge. I think the idea has been for a aggressive but counter attacking minded team, but our defense isn't good enough, we can't afford to invite pressure onto ourselves as we haven't the solidity at the back. Another problem is keeping possession at a basic level further up the pitch, Lampard adds ample scoring ability but absolutely no ability to retain the ball. Wilshere is sorely missed, and without him we look like Arsenal without Wilshere, unconvincing and sorely missing someone like Fabergas anyway. England doesn't generate playmakers, Wilshere is the closest we have, and maybe Cleverly will be able to do this, but now the most valuable commodity in footy we are very short of. We need some longtermist thinking now, not Capello who now is just running down his contract, we need someone to build this young team, and admit probably not going to be great for another 4 years together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Aye, as soon as Capello leaves, the rebuilding process should begin. That is, get rid of the deadweight in the England team atm (Barry, Milner etc.) and start picking the promising youngsters (Cleverley, Welbeck, Sturridge etc.) as well as having some decent experience around (I'd still have Lampard, Terry and Gerrard around tbh). That's my hope anyway..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 That Gareth Barry and James Milner get games for England is one of life's great mysteries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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