Village Idiot Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 The notion "Black Lawyers Society" is absolutely ridiculous . Lawyers are lawyers, be it Saul Goodman, some dude from Angola, or someone from Mongolia. Those do more harm to the racism campaign than good.....ganging up against an old white man. Feel for Roy here, he's done nothing wrong. I agree that in this case they are totally wrong and are doing themselves a lot of halm, but I don't agree that they shouldn't exist. Some professions are institutionally racist or, at least, the representation of certain sections of society is so low that a special interest group is justified. Justified in order to accomplish what, promote segregation? Erm, no. Promote the progression of a group who are otherwise marginalised, suffer from prejudice and have nobody to speak up for them. For example, ethnic breakdown of UK judges in 2012... 94.9% white. Oh, right, well in that case they're doing a fine job. Really making a contribution. They should probably disband then, and stop trying. These groups may be overbearing and even slightly histerical sometimes, but they do bring visibility to real problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 The notion "Black Lawyers Society" is absolutely ridiculous . Lawyers are lawyers, be it Saul Goodman, some dude from Angola, or someone from Mongolia. Those do more harm to the racism campaign than good.....ganging up against an old white man. Feel for Roy here, he's done nothing wrong. I agree that in this case they are totally wrong and are doing themselves a lot of halm, but I don't agree that they shouldn't exist. Some professions are institutionally racist or, at least, the representation of certain sections of society is so low that a special interest group is justified. Justified in order to accomplish what, promote segregation? Erm, no. Promote the progression of a group who are otherwise marginalised, suffer from prejudice and have nobody to speak up for them. For example, ethnic breakdown of UK judges in 2012... 94.9% white. Oh, right, well in that case they're doing a fine job. Really making a contribution. They should probably disband then, and stop trying. These groups may be overbearing and even slightly histerical sometimes, but they do bring visibility to real problems. And to fabricated ones, which has the opposite effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Of course, everyone has said they've made a mess of the situation this time around. I was just saying they do have a role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Yeah, drawing attention to themselves based on a notion of discrimination that basically doesn't exist anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Yeah, drawing attention to themselves based on a notion of discrimination that basically doesn't exist anymore. You'll need to elaborate on that I think. Edit: actually, let's not totally ruin this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Peter Herbert again. What an absolute wanker he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'd quite like to know who the player was that was upset. It'll enable us to finally answer the question: "who is the thickest person in English football?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Peter Herbert again. What an absolute w***** he is. Yep, can't stand him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 Peter Herbert again. What an absolute wanker he is. utter clown looking for easy publicity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 18, 2013 Share Posted October 18, 2013 I'd quite like to know who the player was that was upset. It'll enable us to finally answer the question: "who is the thickest person in English football?" My money on Defoe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Whose this bloody stupid woman on the FA board? I'm all for equality but putting black people on a commission, or into a job (in any line of employment) just to allow 'black representation" is about as nonsensical as I've ever heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 The notion "Black Lawyers Society" is absolutely ridiculous . Lawyers are lawyers, be it Saul Goodman, some dude from Angola, or someone from Mongolia. Those do more harm to the racism campaign than good.....ganging up against an old white man. Feel for Roy here, he's done nothing wrong. I agree that in this case they are totally wrong and are doing themselves a lot of halm, but I don't agree that they shouldn't exist. Some professions are institutionally racist or, at least, the representation of certain sections of society is so low that a special interest group is justified. Justified in order to accomplish what, promote segregation? Erm, no. Promote the progression of a group who are otherwise marginalised, suffer from prejudice and have nobody to speak up for them. For example, ethnic breakdown of UK judges in 2012... 94.9% white. and what's that in proportion to the racial make up of the country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24637383 Clarke Carlisle: FA commission 'fundamentally flawed' Clarke Carlisle says the FA commission set up to improve the fortunes of the England national team is "fundamentally flawed" because of its "elite" nature. The make-up of the 10-man panel has been criticised for lacking diversity. The outgoing Professional Footballers' Association chairman fears minority areas will not be addressed fully. "It's a brilliant idea and it has the potential to do good, but with the current constitution of the commission, it is fundamentally flawed," he said. "These are all guys that we know. These are all guys that have been doing it for 20 years. Where's the new ideas? Where's the new blood? And where's the representation for sectors of the industry that aren't elite?" Greg Dyke, the chairman of the Football Association, defended the make-up of the panel after Heather Rabbatts - the FA's only female board member - made her concerns public. All 10 members are male, and the panel was all-white until Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand was added alongside England manager Roy Hodgson on Sunday. Dyke revealed that he had attempted to bring in ethnic minority representation by including Carlisle, who played more than 500 professional games for nine clubs before retiring in May. Instead, it was decided that Hartlepool's Ritchie Humphreys - Carlisle's successor as PFA chairman - should be the representative for current players. Also involved are FA vice-chairman Roger Burden, former England boss Glenn Hoddle, ex-England defender Danny Mills, League Managers' Association chairman Howard Wilkinson, Football League chairman Greg Clarke and Crewe director of football Dario Gradi. In September, Dyke set England targets of reaching the Euro 2020 semi-finals and winning the World Cup in 2022. And the group will examine how to increase the number of England-qualified players appearing for the country's top clubs. On Tuesday, it was announced that the Premier League, the UK government and the FA have committed to a new £102m fund to be spent improving grassroots football facilities. Carlisle is a supporter of the commission's aims, but is worried that issues concerning minority sections of the sport, such as increasing the number of young British Asians playing football and expanding the women's game, may not be tackled fully without the inclusion of experts in those areas. Speaking to BBC Radio Lancashire, the 34-year-old continued: "I think the representation of this commission should be far fewer people that we know. It should be people who have been working in these areas of football that we need to address, who have the professional knowledge and understanding." When asked if he would like to be included on the panel, Carlisle added: "There is nothing that I could contribute more than what Ritchie Humphreys will. "In the context of the future of England's national team, I would contribute far less than Rio Ferdinand will because he's been there for many years. "They're two current players on there and I don't feel you need any more than that. You need that relevant player experience, but you also need to cover every other facet of the game." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 The notion "Black Lawyers Society" is absolutely ridiculous . Lawyers are lawyers, be it Saul Goodman, some dude from Angola, or someone from Mongolia. Those do more harm to the racism campaign than good.....ganging up against an old white man. Feel for Roy here, he's done nothing wrong. I agree that in this case they are totally wrong and are doing themselves a lot of halm, but I don't agree that they shouldn't exist. Some professions are institutionally racist or, at least, the representation of certain sections of society is so low that a special interest group is justified. Justified in order to accomplish what, promote segregation? Erm, no. Promote the progression of a group who are otherwise marginalised, suffer from prejudice and have nobody to speak up for them. For example, ethnic breakdown of UK judges in 2012... 94.9% white. and what's that in proportion to the racial make up of the country? 87% white in 2011 census. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 It takes decades of work at the bar to become a judge. What was the make-up 30 years ago? It's a dreadful example and a dreadful point overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/P0Mlmq9.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Was talking to mate the other day about Rodriguez saying that he deserves a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Was talking to mate the other day about Rodriguez saying that he deserves a chance. We had better get in before Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Rodriguez has looked fucking awesome in the last 3 league games. What a prospect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Southampton should have loads of players in there in the next year or 2 with Lambert, Rodriquez and Lallana currently and Clyne, Shaw and Ward-Prowse being close. Very impressive stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Feel a bit for Shaw RE: England, obviously a fantastic prospect but even then in 4/5 years he'll still be up against Gibbs. Great for England though, shame it's not replicated across the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Good time to be a Southampton fan like. Fair play to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Good time to be a Southampton fan like. Fair play to them. They deserve it tbh after the shite they've been through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Good time to be a Southampton fan like. Fair play to them. They deserve it tbh after the shite they've been through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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