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Cheer up what? 

Gordon Strachan by the sounds of it. Closely preceded by "your support is fuckin shit ". Now we only need the great escape from that twatful band and we'll have a full house.

Cheer up what?

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I meant I'd logged on to find this out.

 

Ah. Please accept my apologies for my tone and manner in that case.

 

Although, as it does not seem have been sung again, we're still no further forward to solving it.

 

Poorly worded on my part old chap, no apologies necessary.

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Phil Jones is awful man.

 

:thup:

 

He's a decent CB. Nothing flash but decent in the middle of a back 4. Push him 15 yards forward and ask him to protect another 2 CB's behind him and he's like a fish riding a bicycle. Looks awful in there atm.

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p*ss poor, half-arsed defending from Jones like. One of the most overrated players about.

 

Definitely not overrated by Man Red fans.  They hate him :lol:

Froggy probably doesn't.

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What do people expect? We are the very definition of average. We will beat all the crap time, but time after time we will lose against other decent sides, especially if it's a competitive game. Ok so some games against the tougher sides will be close, but the story is always the same.

I sincerely doubt that England will have a team better than this for a long time, it would take drastic action from the way we train and develop youngsters for us to ever have a team capable of competing.

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he's a barely competent premier league centre half. Anyone who thinks he can play international football as a holding midfielder should be locked in a padded room for their own protection.

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What do people expect? We are the very definition of average. We will beat all the crap time, but time after time we will lose against other decent sides, especially if it's a competitive game. Ok so some games against the tougher sides will be close, but the story is always the same.

I sincerely doubt that England will have a team better than this for a long time, it would take drastic action from the way we train and develop youngsters for us to ever have a team capable of competing.

 

People expect exactly what is happening, but that doesn't mean they're going to be happy when we concede goals/play shit?

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What do people expect? We are the very definition of average. We will beat all the crap time, but time after time we will lose against other decent sides, especially if it's a competitive game. Ok so some games against the tougher sides will be close, but the story is always the same.

I sincerely doubt that England will have a team better than this for a long time, it would take drastic action from the way we train and develop youngsters for us to ever have a team capable of competing.

 

It's like a team of Tesco deputy shift supervisors playing against a team of Tesco area managers, we just won't compete.

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