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I agree with that, but his kicking is epidemically poor and for some reason it never improves.

 

His poor kicking is catching? Soon every 'keeper in the PL will have it.

 

This is [the] type of post that makes me wish the Internet was never invented. Just monstrous levels of vocabulary abuse.

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I agree with that, but his kicking is epidemically poor and for some reason it never improves.

 

His poor kicking is catching? Soon every 'keeper in the PL will have it.

 

This is type of post that makes me wish the Internet was never invented. Just monstrous levels of vocabulary abuse.

 

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His goalkeeping abilities have been receding since that legendary season when we came fith. Back then he was quite good at catching crossed and corners and dominating his box better. Now he tends to be frozen on his line or he is an accident waiting to happen when he tries to come out for the ball. He's still a decent shot stopper despite that last blunder. People were talking about him being close to world class before, right now I don't think he's anywhere near.

 

Makes me wonder what kind of "coaching" Woodman is doing to our goalkeepers. None of them can kick a ball properly to save their lives and none of them look very confident in catching crosses and corners. Is he only focusing on shot stopping and completely ignores all the other parts of goalkeeping?

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I agree with that, but his kicking is epidemically poor and for some reason it never improves.

 

His poor kicking is catching? Soon every 'keeper in the PL will have it.

 

This is [the] type of post that makes me wish the Internet was never invented. Just monstrous levels of vocabulary abuse.

 

Nice edit. You're wrong, of course.

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f***ing Woodman, fished up from League One by his mate.

 

Should an international goalkeeper need a specialised coach to do the basics?

 

No but being coached by amateurs surely doesn't help. Regardless of the reasons he's crap now like everyone else.

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Lack of competent competition has to be a factor - all he has to do to keep his place is be better than Elliot and Alnwick ffs.

You can throw in all the excuses you want really, his regression is down to no one but himself in the end IMO. Yes, Woodman is a shite coach and yes he's been way too comfortable, but he is still close to being an international starter for one of the best teams on the planet, that she be motivation enough to stay at your best and not jump away from shots.

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Lack of competent competition has to be a factor - all he has to do to keep his place is be better than Elliot and Alnwick ffs.

You can throw in all the excuses you want really, his regression is down to no one but himself in the end IMO. Yes, Woodman is a shite coach and yes he's been way too comfortable, but he is still close to being an international starter for one of the best teams on the planet, that she be motivation enough to stay at your best and not jump away from shots.

I think you're underestimating the effect a coach has on a sports person tbh.
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Lack of competent competition has to be a factor - all he has to do to keep his place is be better than Elliot and Alnwick ffs.

Agreed. He probably only has to give 80% in training to look ace. I guarantee we sign a proper back-up GK his form would improve tenfold. It's human nature.

 

The kicking would still be awful mind but now his shot stopping is poor. The amount of times he puts balls straight back into play rather than off to the side is crazy. Also basically stopped coming for crosses. For his sake he needs to leave to better himself.

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There's no doubt the lad's talented, which makes his awful season all the more frustrating. I think a move away would benefit him immensely. Needs to get away from our awful coaches and the whole 'let's do the bare minimum' culture.

Aye, it's bringing him down. Of course he's part of it and deserves stick for poor performances but he's in an environment that's just letting him coast. We'll not sign anyone better than him or even close, he'll have no reason to improve. And he isn't one of those lads that rises above his station which is disappointing.

 

I think it's more our culture of bare-minimum than poor coaching. The crap coaching however is a symptom of our culturally/systemic problem. Exact same coaching set-up under Keegan and SJH and Tim would be a much better GK because more would be demanded.

 

A lot of people massively over-rating the impact an individual coach can have on a mid 20's footballer.

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f***ing Woodman, fished up from League One by his mate.

 

Should an international goalkeeper need a specialised coach to do the basics?

 

No, his loss of international inclusion draws suspicion to how the club has nurtured his talent though.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if the League One manager's mate from League One didn't help his cause.

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Seems primed for next January imo. 6 months of Darlow "knocking on the door" and we'll begrudgingly let the money-grabbing mercenary cunt to sign for a massive club like Everton.

 

Anyone with hands is arguably in better form than Tim Howard at the moment.

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Seems primed for next January imo. 6 months of Darlow "knocking on the door" and we'll begrudgingly let the money-grabbing mercenary c*** to sign for a massive club like Everton.

Yep and Everton is the type of destination he'll end up at. Or Italy.

 

He's got worse because unless he wants a move he has little reason to improve.

Aye and he seems happy to stay here. So we'll do him like Davide.
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Seems primed for next January imo. 6 months of Darlow "knocking on the door" and we'll begrudgingly let the money-grabbing mercenary cunt go to sign for a massive club like Everton.

 

Sounds about right.

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