Joey Barton (now retired)

[BlueStar]

 

Sabotaged his own playing career by being a cunt, sabotaged his own management career by being a cunt, sabotaging his own.. retirement? Half hearted attempt to be a media personality? Fuck knows, wish he'd just go away, sick of seeing him referred to as "Ex Newcastle player". 

[Nine]

He’s not trying to be anything, he’s farming twitter impressions by being controversial and outspoken. It’s better for everyone to just lock this thread, directing traffic his way is giving him what he wants.

[GideonShandy]

On 19/03/2024 at 12:12, FLUMPO235 said:

Jeremy vine didn’t like being called a ‘bike nonce’.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/joey-barton-jeremy-vine-crowdfunder-32360054.amp

 

 

"Bike nonce" now officially deemed libelous.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/may/24/joey-barton-calling-jeremy-vine-a-bike-nonce-was-defamatory-judge-rules

 

So Shelvey was lucky to get away with calling that Moroccan a couscous nonce.  Allegedly.

[PauloGeordio]

3 hours ago, GideonShandy said:

"Bike nonce" now officially deemed libelous.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/may/24/joey-barton-calling-jeremy-vine-a-bike-nonce-was-defamatory-judge-rules

 

So Shelvey was lucky to get away with calling that Moroccan a couscous nonce.  Allegedly.

Lawyers acting for Vine also argued that a hypothetical reader “would appreciate that ‘bacon’ was short for the rhyming-slang expression ‘bacon bonce’ meaning ‘nonce’, referring to one of the tweets which called Vine a “bike nonce” and “raving bacon”.
 

[Monkey Alan]

I like Joey. He's entertaining. When his Brian Griffin pretendy intellectual routine didn't fool anyone he pivoted to being John Bull, the regular geezer who tells it like it is. 

 

Personally, I think he should drop football and politics and just do one of them channels that interview hard bastards about even harder bastards who died in the 90s. I reckon he'd be in his element listening to Sayers talk about how many thumbs he's broken. Think about, Joey.

[Ben]

I disagree with 99.99% of what Barton says......apart from his hatred of Eni Aluko, I think she's actually worse than him. ITV have dropped a clanger getting her for the Euro coverage.

[TheBrownBottle]

7 hours ago, Ben said:

I disagree with 99.99% of what Barton says......apart from his hatred of Eni Aluko, I think she's actually worse than him. ITV have dropped a clanger getting her for the Euro coverage.

Aluko is an arrogant know-nowt arse.  Barton is something much, much worse. 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2024 by TheBrownBottle

[Rafalove]

 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Rio Ferdinand is the worst. Guy can’t shut up. 

[Matt1892]

I don’t think that is the worst question from Ferdinand, as presuming he meant since being a professional.

 

Did Fabregas mention Messi in his response? 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2024 by Matt1892

[Ben]

One of my pet hates is modern day pundits getting work because of their reputation as a player and not their football IQ.

 

We have so many stats to analyse these days I would much rather listen to an expert coach disscus the game.

[mouldy_uk]

31 minutes ago, Ben said:

One of my pet hates is modern day pundits getting work because of their reputation as a player and not their football IQ.

 

We have so many stats to analyse these days I would much rather listen to an expert coach disscus the game.

Micah Richards is a prime example of this. I really like the guy, but he literally never says anything insightful. I want my pundits to really dig into the tactics, stats or nuances of the game, not just point out obvious shit like any old idiot like myself can already see 

[Dr.Spaceman]

Too many charvers and PFM's in football to bother with nerdy stuff in the mainstream. Loads of people still long for the days SSN had an all white, over 50 panel with a token black fella being shipped off to bottom half Premier League games for comedy value. There's absolutely no way mainstream football analysis is getting any nerdier than Neville & Carragher's current style any time soon.

[Menace]

You often hear Redknapp's "insight" being copied in pubs when it comes to football analysis. Says it all really.

[Ben]

1 hour ago, mouldy_uk said:

Micah Richards is a prime example of this. I really like the guy, but he literally never says anything insightful. I want my pundits to really dig into the tactics, stats or nuances of the game, not just point out obvious shit like any old idiot like myself can already see 

 

Gary O'neil on Monday night football last season was great 

[Ronaldo]

4 hours ago, Rafalove said:

 

I do get the point but one is a legit open question that can lead on to a Messi anecdote. The other is just another stupid, factually incorrect statement by someone who doesn’t bother doing the research because her other characteristics keep her in a job. She’s like a parody at this point 

[The Prophet]

Aluko is another braindead ex-player who's fallen on their feet in punditry, despite not bring very good at it. We collect them.

 

 

Edited June 17, 2024 by The Prophet

[Ronaldo]

There are some pundits who offer poor to no insight but lots of personality and I understand why they’d occasionally get a gig. She brings neither, though.

 

As you say she’s certainly not the only one. 

[Ben]

3 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Aluko is another braindead ex-pundit, who's fallen on their feet in punditry, despite not bring very good at it. We collect them.

 

She is just genuinely not good at punditry which has nothing to do with her race or gender.

 

Emma Hayes and Sue Smith are as good as any bloke at taking about games

[gdm]

1 hour ago, Ronaldo said:

I do get the point but one is a legit open question that can lead on to a Messi anecdote. The other is just another stupid, factually incorrect statement by someone who doesn’t bother doing the research because her other characteristics keep her in a job. She’s like a parody at this point 

its yet another typical English pundit thinking England are the best thing since sliced bread and Bellingham is the best player that ever lived. Ferdinand wasn’t interested in a Messi anecdote or even what Fabregas answer was going to be he just wanted to coo about Bellingham. The commentary was absolutely ridiculous as well. 
 

They do it every tournament yet never learn 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2024 by gdm

[gdm]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

Aluko is another braindead ex-player, who's fallen on their feet in punditry, despite not bring very good at it. We collect them.

 

 

 

She isn’t great but the targetted attacks by Barton and his followers is ridiculous. Wouldn’t like to have her job for any money knowing whatever she says good or bad it’ll get picked apart and ridiculed. Barton is a cunt. He knows what he’s doing. 

[tgarve]

20 minutes ago, gdm said:

She isn’t great but the targetted attacks by Barton and his followers is ridiculous. Wouldn’t like to have her job for any money knowing whatever she says good or bad it’ll get picked apart and ridiculed. Barton is a cunt. He knows what he’s doing. 

The two things are mutually exclusive in my opinion

 

Barton is a huge cunt 

 

She shouldn’t be doing her job either 

[Kid Icarus]

She's absolutely shit but it's annoying how her shitness is automatically tied to her race and sex.

 

I saw a clip today of two people thinking they were being completely fair by describing exactly why she's terrible, but then they followed it up with how she "isn't doing the women's game any favours"

 

They're probably right in reality, but if you think about how odd it would sound if you said "Michael Owen isn't doing the men's game any favours" or how racist it would sound to say "Garth Crooks isn't doing black pundits any favours" it's obvious what even people like that who think they're being fair are unwittingly buying into.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 17, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[The Prophet]

1 hour ago, gdm said:

She isn’t great but the targetted attacks by Barton and his followers is ridiculous. Wouldn’t like to have her job for any money knowing whatever she says good or bad it’ll get picked apart and ridiculed. Barton is a cunt. He knows what he’s doing. 

 

Agreed. 

[toon25]

28 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

She's absolutely shit but it's annoying how her shitness is automatically tied to her race and sex.

 

I saw a clip today of two people thinking they were being completely fair by describing exactly why she's terrible, but then they followed it up with how she "isn't doing the women's game any favours"

 

They're probably right in reality, but if you think about how odd it would sound if you said "Michael Owen isn't doing the men's game any favours" or how racist it would sound to say "Garth Crooks isn't doing black pundits any favours" it's obvious what even people like that who think they're being fair are unwittingly buying into.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Spot on.