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If he leaves you'll undoubtedly miss his "strong character" on the pitch.

He's very stupid because he could have been your captain, i think he has this natural leadership you'll probably need with all those departures (Nolan, Enrique) and the new signings...

 

I think his actions over the past few months have shown that he lacks leadership. He has desire but it is mostly self-centred. I would be happier if he left as I don't think he's as interested in the team's future as his own, and with so many new players to bed in, he's shown little interest in helping them acclimatise.

 

Agree. It's a ridiculous dilemma that we as a club have a habit of creating. How do you deal with a situation where the most potent attacking player at the club could let you down at any time? Bellamy comes to mind tbh. Whatever is said about JB his talent or something close to it needs replacing, and there's a debate in itself on that topic.

 

All this.

 

I finally began to warm to him last season. Now he just seems like a self-centred bellend who is probably more trouble than he's worth.

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Has he been confirmed in or out of the last friendly?

 

Journal this morning says he's out:

 

"The midfielder has been withdrawn from tomorrow’s friendly against Fiorentina and trained with the development team yesterday but the change in tone from Newcastle’s furious reaction to his Elland Road Tweets was marked. And, while Pardew chose his words carefully, it is clear that his personal relationship with the midfielder is repairable."

 

Read More http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2011/08/05/cooling-off-period-begins-at-st-james-park-61634-29181372/#ixzz1U8raZriY

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Has he been confirmed in or out of the last friendly?

 

Journal this morning says he's out:

 

"The midfielder has been withdrawn from tomorrow’s friendly against Fiorentina and trained with the development team yesterday but the change in tone from Newcastle’s furious reaction to his Elland Road Tweets was marked. And, while Pardew chose his words carefully, it is clear that his personal relationship with the midfielder is repairable."

 

Read More http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2011/08/05/cooling-off-period-begins-at-st-james-park-61634-29181372/#ixzz1U8raZriY

 

Long story short, Ashley said get rid, Pardew said who am I getting in return, long pause hmmmm maybe if Joey is good then he can stay.

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Like Colocho says, it seems to me that Pardew would probably go along with getting rid of Barton but he is now thinking "what's the chances of a replacement coming in?"

 

No wonder he's hedging his bets at this moment.

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Pardew seems to think that he can repair the damage that's been done between Joey and the owner, and between Joey and the rest of the team, through the relationship that he himself has got with him. Either that, or like any anxious manager, he wants to keep hold of one of his best players if at all possible - at least until there's a replacement in.

 

It all feels unrealistic. Too much has happened and I don't think Joey himself, in this 'victim' mode, has enough insight to make the necessary adjustments.

 

 

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Pardew seems to think that he can repair the damage that's been done between Joey and the owner, and between Joey and the rest of the team, through the relationship that he himself has got with him. Either that, or like any anxious manager, he wants to keep hold of one of his best players if at all possible - at least until there's a replacement in.

 

It all feels unrealistic. Too much has happened and I don't think Joey himself, in this 'victim' mode, has enough insight to make the necessary adjustments.

 

 

 

What damage between Barton and the rest of the team?  I haven't seen anything to suggest that we have a problem between him and the other players.

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I like how the papers said Barton was a negative influence on the young players at the club and then make him train with them...!

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Pardew seems to think that he can repair the damage that's been done between Joey and the owner, and between Joey and the rest of the team, through the relationship that he himself has got with him. Either that, or like any anxious manager, he wants to keep hold of one of his best players if at all possible - at least until there's a replacement in.

 

It all feels unrealistic. Too much has happened and I don't think Joey himself, in this 'victim' mode, has enough insight to make the necessary adjustments.

 

 

 

is it anything to do with the expectations of a 'buying' club?  he's available for free, but what would joey be owed by nufc, in terms of wages and bonuses, if his contract was to be cancelled to allow him to move?  maybe 3.5/4m?  maybe its less, i dont know, but that money has to either be paid by the club to barton, paid in part or in full by they 'buying' club, or written off in part or in full by joey himself.  if we were acting like it was impossible to see joey staying beyond august, the buying club would not join negotiations to get the problem of this payment out of the way. 

i'd imagine newcastle would at least want half of this paid by (everton? stoke? whoever) if he was to leave.  remember the payment man city owed joey, it was much less and he waited for it before he moved

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Has he been confirmed in or out of the last friendly?

 

Journal this morning says he's out:

 

"The midfielder has been withdrawn from tomorrow’s friendly against Fiorentina and trained with the development team yesterday but the change in tone from Newcastle’s furious reaction to his Elland Road Tweets was marked. And, while Pardew chose his words carefully, it is clear that his personal relationship with the midfielder is repairable."

 

Read More http://www.journallive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2011/08/05/cooling-off-period-begins-at-st-james-park-61634-29181372/#ixzz1U8raZriY

I read it somewhere yesterday that Joey Barton was going to be in a golf tournament in London for that weekend as it was planned for him to go there after he was told he was free to leave us so him being withdrawn sounds a bit iffy if thats the case  :undecided:
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