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The more he plays the more he seems to overtake Cabaye really. He is capable to spot those cross field passes up the wings.

 

So does Cabaye.

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Showed his strengths today and proved he's very calm on the ball. I think he's playing for his next contract, be it with us or somewhere else he clearly wants to sign his next deal on the back of good form. My concern with handing him a deal would be that he doesn't suffer from Viduka syndrome.

 

Viduka was an ageing superstar in his 30s and looking for a final payout - Danny Guthrie is a journeyman player who is 24 years old. Big difference.

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Showed his strengths today and proved he's very calm on the ball. I think he's playing for his next contract, be it with us or somewhere else he clearly wants to sign his next deal on the back of good form. My concern with handing him a deal would be that he doesn't suffer from Viduka syndrome.

 

Viduka was an ageing superstar in his 30s and looking for a final payout - Danny Guthrie is a journeyman player who is 24 years old. Big difference.

journeyman is a bit extreme, he's only had 2 clubs permanently

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Showed his strengths today and proved he's very calm on the ball. I think he's playing for his next contract, be it with us or somewhere else he clearly wants to sign his next deal on the back of good form. My concern with handing him a deal would be that he doesn't suffer from Viduka syndrome.

 

Viduka was an ageing superstar in his 30s and looking for a final payout - Danny Guthrie is a journeyman player who is 24 years old. Big difference.

I meant in terms of putting the extra effort in when you're looking for a deal. It's no statement of ability. FWIW I like Guthrie, I see potential but it's whether he can consistently perform is the issue.

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Showed his strengths today and proved he's very calm on the ball. I think he's playing for his next contract, be it with us or somewhere else he clearly wants to sign his next deal on the back of good form. My concern with handing him a deal would be that he doesn't suffer from Viduka syndrome.

 

Viduka was an ageing superstar in his 30s and looking for a final payout - Danny Guthrie is a journeyman player who is 24 years old. Big difference.

journeyman is a bit extreme, he's only had 2 clubs permanently

 

Fair point - I meant that in the context of his status as a player rather than the number of clubs he's played for.

 

Viduka was a "big" player with a questionable attitude for many years and Guthrie has to date always tried his best and generally not been a front line player. It's good to see him stepping in and performing, personally I don't think there's much danger of Viduka syndrome.

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And Pardew believes the quartet, who have all patiently waited for a chance this term, can be proud of their performances - especially Guthrie.

 

"I have been saying this for a long time: this is a very good player who happens to be sitting behind two players who could play in any Premier League side at the moment, so he has had it tough," said the boss of former Liverpool midfielder Guthrie.

 

"He was terrific again today and just showed he is worthy of a start in this team.

 

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20111106/pardews-praise-for-patient-players_2281670_2507079?

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"They did absolutely brilliantly, and then at the end, I had a bit of a tough call with that one, Peter (Lovenkrands) or Hatem (Ben Arfa)."

:serious:

 

Man management ftw.

 

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I hope :lol:

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"They did absolutely brilliantly, and then at the end, I had a bit of a tough call with that one, Peter (Lovenkrands) or Hatem (Ben Arfa)."

:serious:

 

Man management ftw.

 

It's good man management for the squad players and the Lovenkrads, but don't think it's good for HBA's morale. He must be quite surprised to be put in the same bracket as Lovekrads, I hope he is patient and understands that he needs to be eased in. Although that both Obertan and Marveux is out, he should be getting more minutes. It would be wrong to start with Ameobi against City.

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Just watched the game in full, thought he was excellent. He's always been a lower half PL CM for me, but he showed on Saturday (and against Stoke, tbf) that he's capable of more than that. His technique has always been decent, but it seems to have improved massively going off these showings. Then, of course, his fitness that has always been criticised seems better as well. Long may it continue, he's certainly proved that he's a very good back up CM after Tiote and Cabaye :thup:

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I think people were way too harsh on Guthrie after the WBA game last season and completely ignored how he had done for us before that. His first season with us he had some very good games and showed a fair bit of ability I thought, but like everyone else, his form suffered as that shambolic season came to its end. In the championship I thought he was one of our better players as well, he was absolutely running the show for us in the second half of the season and dominating in midfield, chipping in with a fair few assists. Last season he had a bad game against WBA, but then followed it with some good ones (Spurs at home (I think?) and Man Utd at home he was good). And this season, he's been called on without having hardly any match fitness and performed admirably in two tough games. Hope he keeps it up, im a fan and he can be a very useful backup to Tiote and Cabaye.

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I think people were way too harsh on Guthrie after the WBA game last season and completely ignored how he had done for us before that. His first season with us he had some very good games and showed a fair bit of ability I thought, but like everyone else, his form suffered as that shambolic season came to its end. In the championship I thought he was one of our better players as well, he was absolutely running the show for us in the second half of the season and dominating in midfield, chipping in with a fair few assists. Last season he had a bad game against WBA, but then followed it with some good ones (Spurs at home (I think?) and Man Utd at home he was good). And this season, he's been called on without having hardly any match fitness and performed admirably in two tough games. Hope he keeps it up, im a fan and he can be a very useful backup to Tiote and Cabaye.

 

:thup:  Spot on.

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