Lush Vlad Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Assuming Best, Marveaux and Obertan all miss out, but Cabaye and Tiote are fit, I can still see Guthrie getting a game. Just hope it isn't wide right, would rather HBA, Santon or even Sammy started out wide ahead of him. Cabaye wasn't that effective when playing further forward in a 5 man midfield against the mackems, but it was only his second league game. Santon/HBA Guthrie Tiote Jonas Cabaye Ba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToonUltra Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Considering how much the FM team at Sega are deep into their research, they have got him on £5k a week on the game.... Short to what i actually expected. Was think maybe £15-20k..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Considering how much the FM team at Sega are deep into their research, they have got him on £5k a week on the game.... Short to what i actually expected. Was think maybe £15-20k..... Think his earnings were revealed in court when he was facing a driving ban. A year or two back I think, but it was reported as £4k a week! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 He's getting better and better every hour get a grip lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 He pretended to be injured against WBA, that's what angered folk. Think it was more cos he had a stinker. If it was what you said, it's a bit daft. He'd hardly be the first player to feign an injury after a monumental cock-up. The words Steven Taylor sniper spring to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I would pick him against Man City regardless of Tiote or Cabaye's availability. On the form he showed against Everton, he has to play. Wouldn't go that far. If a reserve comes in and performs well it's great and obviously helps his cause, but I don't think it means he automatically should start. Especially since he only played in the first place due to injury. Guthrie has waited for his chance and when it came along, took it with flying colours. I think it's vital that every player gets the message that if they play well enough, they get their reward, and the team is picked on merit, not reputation. I always felt that the period where Shearer was getting picked regardless of performance was very corrosive of team spirit. Players have to be judged on the performance that we see, not the one we expect to see. Personally, I'd written Guthrie off as a long-term prospect for us, but he played with such calm authority against Stoke and Everton. Perhaps he's responding to a different atmosphere in the squad, but whatever the reason it does look like he's found a confidence and maturity that wasn't there before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I was really impressed with his movement, quick passing - example being the Heitinga own goal movement. He picked up the ball, passed it - then I believe received it again and made a very clever move away from the Everton marker, and played a nice ball into space to keep the play moving to Simpson. I've always had a soft spot for him as he would pop up with some great performances and would score some crackers with that right foot of his. Hope he signs and continues on, hes a wonderful player for our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I would pick him against Man City regardless of Tiote or Cabaye's availability. On the form he showed against Everton, he has to play. Wouldn't go that far. If a reserve comes in and performs well it's great and obviously helps his cause, but I don't think it means he automatically should start. Especially since he only played in the first place due to injury. Guthrie has waited for his chance and when it came along, took it with flying colours. I think it's vital that every player gets the message that if they play well enough, they get their reward, and the team is picked on merit, not reputation. I always felt that the period where Shearer was getting picked regardless of performance was very corrosive of team spirit. Players have to be judged on the performance that we see, not the one we expect to see. Personally, I'd written Guthrie off as a long-term prospect for us, but he played with such calm authority against Stoke and Everton. Perhaps he's responding to a different atmosphere in the squad, but whatever the reason it does look like he's found a confidence and maturity that wasn't there before. That approach would generally be good when a squad player comes in due to a first team player being out of form and if the squad player performs, yes then he should keep his place in the team. But if the squad comes in due to injury or suspension, then he should not just get to keep his place unless he actually outperformed the first team players when he replaced them. Guthrie played well but his performance was not better than Tiote or Cabaye before they went off injured so once they are fit, they should start simply because they are the best midfielders we have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Looks like he will sign a new contract according to todays Chron. He's a good squad player so I'm all for him signing a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 I would pick him against Man City regardless of Tiote or Cabaye's availability. On the form he showed against Everton, he has to play. Wouldn't go that far. If a reserve comes in and performs well it's great and obviously helps his cause, but I don't think it means he automatically should start. Especially since he only played in the first place due to injury. Guthrie has waited for his chance and when it came along, took it with flying colours. I think it's vital that every player gets the message that if they play well enough, they get their reward, and the team is picked on merit, not reputation. I always felt that the period where Shearer was getting picked regardless of performance was very corrosive of team spirit. Players have to be judged on the performance that we see, not the one we expect to see. Personally, I'd written Guthrie off as a long-term prospect for us, but he played with such calm authority against Stoke and Everton. Perhaps he's responding to a different atmosphere in the squad, but whatever the reason it does look like he's found a confidence and maturity that wasn't there before. I know what you mean, but Tiote and Cabaye had performed very well and are clearly better players. It makes no sense to drop either of them. We want to keep Guthrie motivated, but that needs to done by praising him when he does well and relying on him without question when he's needed. And yes, if someone's form dips he should come in. But right now I wouldn't leave him in when Tiote and Cabaye are fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mantis Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Pleased he is getting a new deal and a game in the centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 nufcfans NUFCfans #NUFC are set to offer Danny Guthrie a new contract at St James Park. (Daily Mirror) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 nufcfans NUFCfans #NUFC are set to offer Danny Guthrie a new contract at St James Park. (Daily Mirror) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Good news, complete forgot about that other stuff that's happening.. Still never understood this "set to", like they journalist is sitting in the room and they are slowing passing over a contract to Guthrie's agent "ok, hang on, nearly with ya..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Donnay Guthrie eh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Good news, complete forgot about that other stuff that's happening.. Still never understood this "set to", like they journalist is sitting in the room and they are slowing passing over a contract to Guthrie's agent "ok, hang on, nearly with ya..." It means they've heard a rumour and have to fill column inches when nothing has actually happened yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 He's excellent back-up in the middle tbh. Look at what other teams put out when their starters are out (Spearing, Livermore and even a couple of Arsenal's youngsters this season), and I'd say we won't be able to get much better in terms of a third choice CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 He's excellent back-up in the middle tbh. Look at what other teams put out when their starters are out (Spearing, Livermore and even a couple of Arsenal's youngsters this season), and I'd say we won't be able to get much better in terms of a third choice CM. Well said. The way he played the last couple of games makes him a midtable midfielder. Really good enough for us as back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 He's excellent back-up in the middle tbh. Look at what other teams put out when their starters are out (Spearing, Livermore and even a couple of Arsenal's youngsters this season), and I'd say we won't be able to get much better in terms of a third choice CM. Well said. The way he played the last couple of games makes him a midtable midfielder. Really good enough for us as back up. I feel frustrated at the reluctance to give the lad proper praise. His last two performances have been the equal of anything we've seen from Tiote and Cabaye this season IMO. Why shoe-horn him into a back-up role when he has shown the potential to be something more? And it's perfectly possible to play all three together in the right formation. He may have benefitted from coming out of the shadow of fellow scousers Nolan and Barton. As Pardew said, when leaders go, it gives the chance for new leaders to emerge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Agrees with the last post. In the last three performance he has been as good as any of our other middle central option. Not saying he is better or that he should start, but as good as he is playing now he deserves a better tag than "a good middle table back up midfielder". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 He needs to show that form for a longer period to justify being seen as any more than back up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 He's excellent back-up in the middle tbh. Look at what other teams put out when their starters are out (Spearing, Livermore and even a couple of Arsenal's youngsters this season), and I'd say we won't be able to get much better in terms of a third choice CM. Well said. The way he played the last couple of games makes him a midtable midfielder. Really good enough for us as back up. I feel frustrated at the reluctance to give the lad proper praise. His last two performances have been the equal of anything we've seen from Tiote and Cabaye this season IMO. Why shoe-horn him into a back-up role when he has shown the potential to be something more? And it's perfectly possible to play all three together in the right formation. He may have benefitted from coming out of the shadow of fellow scousers Nolan and Barton. As Pardew said, when leaders go, it gives the chance for new leaders to emerge. I've been prasing him right after the games when he's done well. Just think he's a back up to Cabaye/Tiote and won't get into the starting line-up if both fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Class, yet again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 He has been superb recently, looks a genuinely good footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 Another one almost killed by Hughton's guff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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