STM Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Harper Kadar Williamson Coloccini Van Aanholt Smith Guthrie Routledge Jonas Nolan Carroll Is something like the line up i expect. I'd prefer Ranger and Lovenkrands to start up front but i expect Hughton to have a tight starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Kadar ahead of Taylor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Kadar ahead of Taylor? Ryan Taylor? Yes, Taylor is a massive liability. Where as i think Kadar's a good defender. EDIT: Although, if Taylor is ok, i think Hughton might plump for him in place of the new lad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Kadar was terrible at RB on wednesday, looked Ok at LB though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 In that case he will probably start at left back with Taylor coming in. I worry with Taylor at right back though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 With a proper RW in front of him he'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Ronaldo your view of Carroll baffles me. Yes, we haven't scored many goals from flick ons from Carroll, but neither have we from Ameobi or Harewood when he was here, thats not the issue, its playing the long ball at all. Play it along the deck and still play Carroll with Lover, then you'll get some results. Cant play Ranger yet, waste of a position....and a one we're f**king struggling in to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Carroll's only real strength is that he can be effective in a long ball system imo. Play the ball on the deck and he's fairly obsolete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Carroll does the first bit right, by winning the headers but often fails to do anything with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Carroll does the first bit right, by winning the headers but often fails to do anything with it. It doesn't help the fact that his headers have to be near perfect to reach a team mate, as the midfield is generally nowhere to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 OK he's not brilliant on the deck, but he's better than that 27 year old piece of crap we've been employing for 10 years too many! Ameobi is the cause of the vast majority of our problems when we play,not least because we aim for him as he's made the target man,often the lone striker, so everything goes to him.....he cant control, or turn, or pass, or create! We are a terrible side with him in the team and not just because he is woeful, but because we seem to only go through this oweful excuse for a footballer. Hes an absolute DONKEY, how can no one see that?! Carroll is much better. Change tactics, tell them, no long balls,play football, pass it around,get in behind anyway you can, try different things....then we'd be amuch better side,and Carroll would be extremely more able than Ameobi would. Loop a few balls into the only Newcastle player in the box and of course he's going to score if he gets enough chances...even with his windmill flailing legs! .....................*exhale* Rant Over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Shola is 28. He also has 7 goals in 9 league games, compared to Carroll's 4 in 20. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Of course AC is not a real goal threat, his shooting is woeful & as the numbers above say he is averaging 1 goal every 4 games compared to say Harewood who was 1 in 3 but AC is the striker with the most assists. He is also quite handy defending set plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Shola is 28. He also has 7 goals in 9 league games, compared to Carroll's 4 in 20. I hope that one day you will sit up in realisation, or look back when a similar subject is brought up and think to yourself 'how on earth could I have had these views?' Otherwise I worry about your opinion and attitudes towards the more important things in life. I hope you don't get them as wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I think Carroll alongside Lovenkrands withj Routledge and Jonas on the wings and Guthrie in the middle would get the best out of Lovenkrands and I think Carroll would be a lot more productive in front of goal with some pace (allowing more space for him) and more creativity. That is of course if we didn't play the hoof game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Shola is 28. He also has 7 goals in 9 league games, compared to Carroll's 4 in 20. I hope that one day you will sit up in realisation, or look back when a similar subject is brought up and think to yourself 'how on earth could I have had these views?' Otherwise I worry about your opinion and attitudes towards the more important things in life. I hope you don't get them as wrong. Views? They're facts man, wake up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I'm with Ronaldo on the Carroll front like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 OK he's not brilliant on the deck, but he's better than that 27 year old piece of crap we've been employing for 10 years too many! Ameobi is the cause of the vast majority of our problems when we play,not least because we aim for him as he's made the target man,often the lone striker, so everything goes to him.....he cant control, or turn, or pass, or create! We are a terrible side with him in the team and not just because he is woeful, but because we seem to only go through this oweful excuse for a footballer. Hes an absolute DONKEY, how can no one see that?! Carroll is much better. Change tactics, tell them, no long balls,play football, pass it around,get in behind anyway you can, try different things....then we'd be amuch better side,and Carroll would be extremely more able than Ameobi would. Loop a few balls into the only Newcastle player in the box and of course he's going to score if he gets enough chances...even with his windmill flailing legs! .....................*exhale* Rant Over No he isn't, although it suits a lot of people to think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 In the wake of our two signings, would anyone be changing our starting line up? I'd look for something like; Harper Taylor Williamson Coloccini VanArnie Routledge Guthrie Smith Jonas Carroll Loven Bench of Krul, Kadar, Hall, Nolan, LuaLua, Ranger, Pancrate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I would go with Kadar at LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 In the wake of our two signings, would anyone be changing our starting line up? I'd look for something like; Harper Taylor Williamson Coloccini VanArnie Routledge Guthrie Smith Jonas Carroll Loven Bench of Krul, Kadar, Hall, Nolan, LuaLua, Ranger, Pancrate Hughton won't drop Nolan yet imo. But I think if he plays for another 3 or 4 games like he's done recently he will be dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 Another thing that the signings of Routledge and possibly Moses do is make it an even bigger possibility that we won't see much of Nicky Butt again. The signing of Routledge means that Guthrie won't play out wide much anymore therefore he will either be in the middle or he will be first choice to step in for Nolan or Smith if they are out. Unless we get more injuries I can't see where Butt is gonna get in anymore with him being 5th choice when Barton is back (we hope anyway). If we signed Moses it would give us more options to use different systems as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest foon Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I think Carroll alongside Lovenkrands withj Routledge and Jonas on the wings and Guthrie in the middle would get the best out of Lovenkrands and I think Carroll would be a lot more productive in front of goal with some pace (allowing more space for him) and more creativity. That is of course if we didn't play the hoof game. I'm with you, I can't see Loven or Carroll not scoring with that set up. This will more than likely bring out the best in Peter, we all know he has the talent. Our strikers haven't really had much to work on and often fight for scraps, I think that's all going to change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 I'd like to see Harper Taylor Williamson Coloccini Kadar Routledge Guthrie Smith © Jonas Carroll Lovenkrands Subs- Krul, Van Arnie, Hall, Butt, Pancrate, Nolan, Ranger That way we should keep the ball better in the middle of the park with Guthrie added in place of Nolan, with Routledge wide right we'd have an even threat on the flanks. Lovenkrands would have many more chances to score with extra creativity behind him (Jonas, Guthrie, Routledge) and Carroll would use his physical presence to gain flick ons etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 29, 2010 Share Posted January 29, 2010 would you not say that Carroll is a bigger goal threat than Ranger at this point in time though? he has 6 this season compared to Ranger's 2. I suggest you look at how much football time the two have had, no forward at this club has played as much first team football as Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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