bowlingcrofty Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 We'll start losing these shit draws soon though, guaranteed. That's when it will go seriously tits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 What's embarrassing is the kneejerk on here. We're not playing good football, sure. But we're getting results and we're still looking comfortable on to of the league headed towards promotion. And I don't care how s*** we might play, as long as we pick up enough points along the way. It's obvious we're bound to have a few slip-ups over such a long campaign, but overall we're still doing the biz, be it with s*** football or not. We havent been doing the biz recently, thats the whole problem. Forest caught 12 points on us, we're no longer playing shite and winning consistantly as shown by today. Dont understand why people keep using this argument Because our "poor run" isn't even a poor run, we've not lost (bar in the cup) for ages, and Forest have caught as many points on us as they have because they've had an immense run which might be running out of steam now. WBA is still around the same distance, and you're all saying they're our only "real" competitors for the title. You're right that we're still high and dry and still looking odds on for promotion - but there's no was anyone can justify the system Hughton put out there today. Like i say - a lot of players were shit but we know that we can win in spite of that. Hughton's ridiculous tactics and personnel diminished any chance of it today, and it's yet A-fucking-NOTHER chance to go points clear - well and truly blown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Fair play to their defence they looked solid but the less said about that performance the better. Lucky with a draw but equally annoyed we didn't capitalise on the extra man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 our midfield is so bad - maybe Barton back in training isn't such a bad thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Leicester are a good side. Sure, you had a man's advantage for most of the game, but a solid side galvanised by a sending off, holding out for 90 minutes really isn't that surprising. It's as though you think you should be wiping away pathetic little teams like Leicester, every week, when reality the difference between your two squads isn't as big as you'd like and they seem far more motivated (this point may be the actual problem). Leicester are a good side, well drilled, solid etc. If Watford had failed to take the initiative to a team with playing with 10men like we did would you have been happy? Its not the result most are annoyed with its the performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Stop playing 4-5-1, IT DOES NOT WORK. Well, it does, we've proven that. But not by doing it like we did today. Just ridiculous. We looked good in the last 15 minutes when we switched to 4-4-2, Routledge and Jonas on the wings, Lovenkrands and Amoebi/Ranger in attack is what we need to start doing.... I have no clue who to put in central midfield, their all plonkers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Leicester are a good side. Sure, you had a man's advantage for most of the game, but a solid side galvanised by a sending off, holding out for 90 minutes really isn't that surprising. It's as though you think you should be wiping away pathetic little teams like Leicester, every week, when reality the difference between your two squads isn't as big as you'd like and they seem far more motivated (this point may be the actual problem). This,maybe some people think we are better than we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Leicester are a good side. Sure, you had a man's advantage for most of the game, but a solid side galvanised by a sending off, holding out for 90 minutes really isn't that surprising. It's as though you think you should be wiping away pathetic little teams like Leicester, every week, when reality the difference between your two squads isn't as big as you'd like and they seem far more motivated (this point may be the actual problem). Id accept them getting behind the ball after a sending off. Whats made this so laughable is them outplaying us for a good half hour following that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Guthrie was the biggest disappointment for me. Looked slow, lacking in ideas, and generally wanted far too much time on the ball. Bit like Barton whenever he's played in this season, there seems to be some sort of arrogant mentality where we have a combination of a player thinking he's better than he is, as well as thinking the opposition are shitter than they are. He needs to go back to how he was playing in the Premiership. Keep it simple and sharp. It may be a step down, but he hasn't got the right set of attributes to be dwelling on the ball or dribbling at the opposition regularly. You cant be serious. After that game you choose to pick out Guthrie? He just means we've come to expect a bit more from a player with his ability. We already know Butt, Smith and Nolan can't run a midfield to save their lives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Awful that, like watching paint dry. Harper 7 - Couple of good saves Taylor 5 - Made a vital tackle but was absolutely woeful with his passing Williamson 8 - Solid at the back, canny performance from him again, covered well. Colo 8 - See above Van Aaholt 6 - Looks promising going forward but noticed the CB had to come back and cover for him quite a bit. Routledge 6 - Nowt brilliant, expected more after Wednesday night, probaby better when the team is balanced properly Butt 3 - Awful, absolutey awful. Provided nowt, terrible. Smith 4 - At least had a go, but to be honest not much better than Butt Guthrie 6 - Tried but had little support, play him in the middle Chris man Nolan 4 - Invisible, forgot we had him most of the time Carroll 5 - Won headers, but apart from that was poor. Cannot play up on his own. Ranger 5 - Runs about a lot, needs longer on the pitch tbh, needs to work on his shooting practice. Pancake 3 - Awful, just awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Bringing Ranger on for Smith and Pancrate on for Nolan are probably the stupidest substitutions he's made all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 What's embarrassing is the kneejerk on here. We're not playing good football, sure. But we're getting results and we're still looking comfortable on to of the league headed towards promotion. And I don't care how s*** we might play, as long as we pick up enough points along the way. It's obvious we're bound to have a few slip-ups over such a long campaign, but overall we're still doing the biz, be it with s*** football or not. We havent been doing the biz recently, thats the whole problem. Forest caught 12 points on us, we're no longer playing shite and winning consistantly as shown by today. Dont understand why people keep using this argument Because our "poor run" isn't even a poor run, we've not lost (bar in the cup) for ages, and Forest have caught as many points on us as they have because they've had an immense run which might be running out of steam now. WBA is still around the same distance, and you're all saying they're our only "real" competitors for the title. You're right that we're still high and dry and still looking odds on for promotion - but there's no was anyone can justify the system Hughton put out there today. Like i say - a lot of players were shit but we know that we can win in spite of that. Hughton's ridiculous tactics and personnel diminished any chance of it today, and it's yet A-fucking-NOTHER chance to go points clear - well and truly blown. Not saying today wasn't down to shit tactics, just saying the kneejerk in general that appears to be increasing on here is getting a bit tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Where are the punters who do match reports with ratings............LETS BE HAVING YA POSTS!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Genuinely think that's one of the worst performances i've seen from us in a while. I'd love to know what Hughton told the players before the game, and then at half time. We looked like a team at the bottom of the league trying to play for a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Guthrie was the biggest disappointment for me. Looked slow, lacking in ideas, and generally wanted far too much time on the ball. Bit like Barton whenever he's played in this season, there seems to be some sort of arrogant mentality where we have a combination of a player thinking he's better than he is, as well as thinking the opposition are shitter than they are. He needs to go back to how he was playing in the Premiership. Keep it simple and sharp. It may be a step down, but he hasn't got the right set of attributes to be dwelling on the ball or dribbling at the opposition regularly. You cant be serious. After that game you choose to pick out Guthrie? He just means we've come to expect a bit more from a player with his ability. We already know Butt, Smith and Nolan can't run a midfield to save their lives. Thats true, suppose you cant be dissapointed when you expect nothing anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest YANKEEBLEEDSMAGPIE Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 I'm gonna try to justify Houghton's selection: Maybe because we're starting two new defenders and one green defender (Taylor), Houghton thinks we need to fill up the midfield. He wants players with high workrate so that they can help keep the defense sealed. He selects Butt to this end because at this point, good fitness is all Butt can really claim to have (though whether he does, of course, is up for discussion). Nolan also is a hard-working type, and no doubt Houghton thinks Nolan is able to score an odd goal, which of course would be nice. No Jonas (or depth in wingers, ffs) means Guthrie has to play that wing, which of course he's not suited to do. Why he doesn't adjust at halftime when Leicester are down a man and we look toothless is another matter, but I guess I could see an argument for the selection of the starting XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Leicester are a good side. Sure, you had a man's advantage for most of the game, but a solid side galvanised by a sending off, holding out for 90 minutes really isn't that surprising. It's as though you think you should be wiping away pathetic little teams like Leicester, every week, when reality the difference between your two squads isn't as big as you'd like and they seem far more motivated (this point may be the actual problem). Leicester are shite man. That's why they didn't beat us when we were - by all accounts - utter fuckin gturd. They went down to ten men and just carried on letting them play their game. If we'd begged them back from the 30th minute till the 90th - like we should have done - they'd have tired eventually and let one slip, inevitably - or certainly would have come close to. Going at it for the last fifteen minutes only was inexcusable on our part. Stop standing up for the league. It's garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 loving the knee-jerks in this thread, as usual Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Where are the punters who do match reports with ratings............LETS BE HAVING YA POSTS!!!! They all get 2's - and that's me being fucking generous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Pancrate was not that bad when he came on . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 loving the knee-jerks in this thread, as usual They're not even amusing anymore, man. Just embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Harper - 6 Usual R.Taylor - 2 The main culprit in the way that we played, the same shit ball after shit ball. Williamson - 6 Did well, showed more passing ability than all of our midfield. Colo- 6 As above. Von Dutch - 6. Started shakily, but the kids got balls, needs to get back more, but I like the look of him. No Enrique though obviously. Guthrie - 3. I like the kid, and against Palace I thought he was MOTM, but today he was really bad. Not helped by playing on the left wing, when he's probably only just got used to playing on the right, but some things like getting 5 yard passes wrong and letting the ball run under his foot are not on. He's better than that. Smith - 3 Shite. Butt - 2.5 Nearly as bad as Taylor, but not quite. He can only pass it first time into the direction hes facing, or the opposite way at a million miles an hour and into row C Routledge - 6 - Not helped by everyone's refusal to use him at all, played some nice passes, looked the only threat. Let himself down slightly by not squaring it to Carroll after some lovely movement. Nolan - 3 Waste of space. Carroll - 2.5 Woeful, not helped by an equally woeful midfield. Ranger - 5 Not very good, but still better than Carroll Pancrate - 4 Pointless Make no mistake though, Hughton deserves the most criticism for this. If he was telling them to play the long ball then he's clueless, if he wasn't then he either has no respect from R.Taylor, or doesnt have the balls to replace him with someone to do the job properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Leicester are a good side. Sure, you had a man's advantage for most of the game, but a solid side galvanised by a sending off, holding out for 90 minutes really isn't that surprising. It's as though you think you should be wiping away pathetic little teams like Leicester, every week, when reality the difference between your two squads isn't as big as you'd like and they seem far more motivated (this point may be the actual problem). they didn't "hold out" though, anything but. for the majority of the time they were down to 10 men WE were side "holding out" and looking like we were a man down. Hughton made some decent changes, once we had more width and two up front we looked the better side, but he left them far too late. had these happened half an hour earlier i imagine we wouldve won the game. quite simply, two points dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 loving the knee-jerks in this thread, as usual It's not knee-jerk, we've been this shit all season. "As long as we get the results eh?" - we're starting to sound like the footballing equivalent of a battered wife. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 Hughton was negative today,he really should have bought Jonas on to stretch the play.Very disappointing in his 2nd half tactics tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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