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Guest Roger Kint

Demba Ba is French according to Lee Ryder.

 

In that he was born there and may still hold a French passport despite representing Senegal at International level? Or in that Ryder didnt get past his place of birth and has no idea about anything?  ;D

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Demba Ba is French according to Lee Ryder.

 

He was born in France.

 

Born in France, plays for Senegal. Much like Bassong for Cameroon...

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AyeDubbleYoo

If he was born in France, and lived in France most of his life, I'd say it's fair to say he's French.

 

Saying he's Senegalese is a bit like saying Robbie Earle is Jamaican. 

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If he was born in France, and lived in France most of his life, I'd say it's fair to say he's French.

 

Saying he's Senegalese is a bit like saying Robbie Earle is Jamaican. 

 

...or Matt Holland is Irish.

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AyeDubbleYoo

TBF I didn't know is background until I looked it up, I always thought he was Senegalese as well.

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If he was born in France, and lived in France most of his life, I'd say it's fair to say he's French.

 

Saying he's Senegalese is a bit like saying Robbie Earle is Jamaican. 

 

...or Matt Holland is Irish.

 

....or Chris Birchill is from Trinidad and Tobago.

 

How the fuck did they manage to wangle that, btw?

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ponsaelius

If he was born in France, and lived in France most of his life, I'd say it's fair to say he's French.

 

Saying he's Senegalese is a bit like saying Robbie Earle is Jamaican. 

 

...or Matt Holland is Irish.

 

....or Chris Birchill is from Trinidad and Tobago.

 

How the fuck did they manage to wangle that, btw?

 

Not as bad as Tyrone Mears playing for Jamaica because he just assumed his black father was from there.

 

Turned out he was from Sierra Leone.

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Segun Oluwaniyi

If he was born in France, and lived in France most of his life, I'd say it's fair to say he's French.

 

Saying he's Senegalese is a bit like saying Robbie Earle is Jamaican. 

His entire family is Senegalese. He is Senegalese. He could be exiled from his country and move to Beijing, he will still be from Senegal.

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Segun Oluwaniyi

Erm... Born and raised in France. I'd say he's french.

His nationality is French, his blood and heritage are West African, it is his choice as to which should be represented. He is both of these things.

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Erm... Born and raised in France. I'd say he's french.

His nationality is French, his blood and heritage are West African, it is his choice as to which should be represented. He is both of these things.

 

If he was born and raised in France he may see himself as Senegalise but he will never be 'from' Senegal

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AyeDubbleYoo

If he was born in France, and lived in France most of his life, I'd say it's fair to say he's French.

 

Saying he's Senegalese is a bit like saying Robbie Earle is Jamaican. 

His entire family is Senegalese. He is Senegalese. He could be exiled from his country and move to Beijing, he will still be from Senegal.

 

Disagree, he might be of Senegalese descent but he's French. He was born in France and lived there his whole life.

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Both of my parents are from Finland but im born and raised here and im also a swedish citizen and lived here my whole life so i would say im "from" Sweden but im still a finn more than a swede because of my finnish blood and roots.

 

Or you could say im both (not on paper though)

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AyeDubbleYoo

I know identity and heritage are more complicated, I'm just saying his "nationality" is French.

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The Duke of Wellington said that if you were born in an oven you wouldn't be a biscuit.

 

Just thought I'd throw that in.

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