toon25 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 That Sanchez transfer was a complete waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 That Sanchez transfer was a complete waste. Under Mourinho it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 That Sanchez transfer was a complete waste. Alexis Sanchez didn't turn from world class to shite overnight. Under the right manager he'll find his form again. If he had gone to City he'd probably be sitting on 10-15 goals this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 That Sanchez transfer was a complete waste. Alexis Sanchez didn't turn from world class to shite overnight. Under the right manager he'll find his form again. If he had gone to City he'd probably be sitting on 10-15 goals this year. I’ve never thought of him as a world-class player or at the same level of say Augero even during his best spell at Arsenal, but he’s a good player and would have fitted in well at City. He’s totally wasted at Man Utd though and his game 100% unsuited to the manager’s tactics, style of play and even man management style, same with Pogba who admittedly is someone whose own game can kind of be changed to a certain role to suit the team more because he’s a more rounded player. Even then you don’t get the best out of him or get something somoene else with half his talent and for a quarter of his price and wages can give you all the same. I think both Sanchez and Pogba were signed as marquee players, with Sanchez signed as somekind of statement to appease fans and the watching world that Man Utd can and will beat their rivals to a player and can compete and even better anyone financially when it comes to wages. They have spent a fuck load, but I’m not so sure Mourinho has had 100% control over who comes in and what areas money gets spent on. There is no excuse for how shit they are though or how they play. Martial, Mata, Rashford, Lukaku, Lingard (who I’ve been really impressed with and consider a very good player and one that has actually improved under Mourinho, but could offer even more) and indeed Sanchez and Pogba are all players who Mourinho has struggled to get the best out of consistently or whose tactics and game plan or style of play limits them as individuals where they are collectively basically running around working hard and putting a defensive shift in just to not lose a game. Rafa gets more than that out of our lot. He’s a busted flush and in danger of becoming a bit of a dinosaur tactically and his style of play. Man Utd are so bad to watch, NUFC are more fun to watch and we really are shit and don’t play good football at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Don't think he's finished but he isn't at the forefront of management and needs to take a step backwards in terms of clubs (maybe even retire in to International Football) and go somewhere he's respected, appreciated and loved, warts n all. Like Rafa here. When (if) he puts his ego aside and realises that's where he is now, he'll probably start enjoying it all again and have a second wind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 That Sanchez transfer was a complete waste. Alexis Sanchez didn't turn from world class to shite overnight. Under the right manager he'll find his form again. If he had gone to City he'd probably be sitting on 10-15 goals this year. his form did seem to go downhill in the last few months at Arsenal, thought it was just down to him kinda sulking but who knows really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I thought he would be played in the "Perez" role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I thought he would be played in the "Perez" role. Santheth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 That Sanchez transfer was a complete waste. Alexis Sanchez didn't turn from world class to s**** overnight. Under the right manager he'll find his form again. If he had gone to City he'd probably be sitting on 10-15 goals this year. his form did seem to go downhill in the last few months at Arsenal, thought it was just down to him kinda sulking but who knows really He was gash at Arsenal whilst he was trying to force the move. As tempting as it might be to say he's a class player who's underperfomring because he's lost it mentally, I'm more inclined to think that he was just a mixture of overrated and overperfoming when people were raving about him. I think City dodged a big bullet by letting him go to Man U, and I doubt he'll stick around in the PL unless a lower team offers him a ridiculous pay day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 The demise of Mourinho is funny as fuck, arrogant tosspot, hope they keep him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I thought Mahrez was a wrong fit for City, but by all accounts he’s been superb and although he doesn’t stand out for them in the way he for Leicester, he’s showing a lot more to his game in general. I think Sanchez would have been a good fit for City, certainly more than Mahrez I thought, but given his wages and likely squad player status had he signed, even they baulked at the deal in terms of wages which is obscene considering he’s not a world-class player, IMO anyway. Again I think it was a signing Man Utd made to flex some muscles, one up manship over their rivals and to appease fans, a good player, but one not needed and one unsuited to their tactics and style of play. He’s to them in ways what Rodwell was to the mackems. Even if Mourinho left I can’t see a way back for him where he becomes the kind of player he was for Arsenal for them or has anywhere near the same kind of influence. I don’t think Mourinho wanted him at all, Pogba likewise. It’s no coincidence both are overlooked by the manager. He’s a good player, they both are, not world-class, but good enough to walk into this current Man Utd team if they weren’t players the manager didn’t want, doesn’t rate and questions their commitment to the cause, his cause. With Mourinho you always feel it’s political though just as much. Just get on with it. That’s why Rafa deserves a lot of plaudits and has shown he’s a great manager because he’s just got on with things and with a degree of success that belies what he has to work with. I argued with a Man Utd fan recently who claimed winning promotion was achieved the hard way despite having the biggest budget, best players and biggest wage bill, which any old manager would have achieved. I argued what Rafa achieved would be akin to Mourinho following up last season by winning the title this season with pretty much the same squad. Relegation to champions, a culture of losing to a culture of winning, a broken dressing room to a united dressing room, a disconnection between fans and club to 100% love and pride. As Mourinho is showing, having spending power and a bigger wage bill means nowt or won’t make up the difference. Rafa is proving the opposite. Mourinho would do well to follow Rafa and go and manage a club and set of players where the manager and his coaching is the difference. At their level, Man Utd have to back their manager in the transfer market in terms of absolute control if not always in terms of spending, but Mourinho has a budget and a squad he should be getting much more from using his coaching abilities alone. Some time out is needed and perhaps a stint at a club with no budget, with a smaller wage budget, at a lower level, is in order to prove himself as a coach or reinvent himself. He’s finished in England and at elite club level. I wouldn’t rule him out winning another trophy for Man Utd mind, he’s a machine at winning trophies. He’d have to win the CL to survive another season though you’d imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Sacked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ElDiablo Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Later beeeetch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Thought he'd get the season tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 New manager bounce in time for us, bastards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 It's felt like end times for a while but thought they'd wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Was not expecting that in the slightest. They've been so poorly run since Fergie left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Awkward time to sack your manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Apparently there's going to be a caretaker in place until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Give it Giggsy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... They may have better players (spending a few hundred million will do that) but they are in no way a better team now than they were when he took over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 He’s left them a better team than the one he inherited. I don’t particularly like the guy but he’s still a better manager than most. Left behind by the likes of Klopp, Guardiola and Pinocchio in recent years with their far more positive football. Squeaky bum time now. Rafa has to be in consideration for their managers job at end of season... That opening statement is very much open to debate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Give it to Old Trafford legend, Steve Brewce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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